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    • NerdyDadN
      NerdyDad @Obsolesce
      last edited by

      @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

      Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

      Just a thought!

      And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear @NerdyDad
        last edited by

        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

        @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

        Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

        Just a thought!

        And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

        I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

        Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @bigbear
          last edited by Obsolesce

          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

          @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

          @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

          Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

          Just a thought!

          And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

          I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

          Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

          It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

          Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

          On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

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          • NerdyDadN
            NerdyDad @Obsolesce
            last edited by

            @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

            @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

            @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

            @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

            Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

            Just a thought!

            And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

            I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

            Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

            It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

            Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

            On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

            That depends on if UCRM/UNMS and the CPE equipment can support IPv6. Forums are showing that they are working on that.

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

              @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

              @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

              @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

              Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

              Just a thought!

              And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

              I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

              Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

              It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

              Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

              On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

              Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.

              Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.

              I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @NerdyDad
                last edited by

                @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                Just a thought!

                And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                That depends on if UCRM/UNMS and the CPE equipment can support IPv6. Forums are showing that they are working on that.

                Yeah and that's another case in point.

                I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think it was designed for easy consumption.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @bigbear
                  last edited by

                  @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                  @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                  @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                  @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                  @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                  Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                  Just a thought!

                  And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                  I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                  Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                  It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                  Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                  On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                  Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.

                  Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.

                  I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address

                  yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                    Just a thought!

                    And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                    I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                    Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                    It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                    Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                    On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                    Got IPv6 on my cell phone. Every time I check from work or home, its always IPv4.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      My home ISP in San Diego is IPv6, (also IPv4). My cell phone (t-mobile) is also IPv6.

                      I'm in Sweden now, and my cell phone data (Comviq) is also IPv6, but home data is showing IPv4... (can't get in to see if it has an IPv6 address like at home).

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                        Just a thought!

                        And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                        I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                        Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                        It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                        Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                        On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                        Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.

                        Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.

                        I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address

                        yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?

                        Carrier Grade NAT is where mobile carriers are heading and it solves more problems than IPv6 for them.

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad
                          last edited by NerdyDad

                          Not supported yet.

                          https://unms.ubnt.com/

                          0_1502399944359_UNMS road map.PNG

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                            last edited by Minion Queen

                            @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?

                            Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.

                            What city/zip/are is this in?

                            I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.

                            Mabank, Texas 75147

                            So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .

                            Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                              last edited by Minion Queen

                              @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?

                              Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.

                              What city/zip/are is this in?

                              I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.

                              Mabank, Texas 75147

                              So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .

                              Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?

                              Are you fing [moderated] stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing [moderated] sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.

                              Anything but building your own f***ing [moderated] tower.

                              Dumb a** [moderated]!

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?

                                Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .

                                They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.

                                But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?

                                WTF

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?

                                  Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .

                                  They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.

                                  But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?

                                  WTF

                                  Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.

                                  And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by DustinB3403

                                    Oh @JaredBusch I need to mail you some stuff, send me your address.

                                    Snail mail

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      I want to send you this mug, to go with the Oh for Fox Sake mug you got.

                                      https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0804/6487/products/eat_a_bag_of_dicks_mug_1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1479924536

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by Minion Queen

                                        @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?

                                        Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.

                                        What city/zip/are is this in?

                                        I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.

                                        Mabank, Texas 75147

                                        So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .

                                        Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?

                                        Are you fing [moderated] stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing [moderated] sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.

                                        Anything but building your own f***ing [moderated] tower.

                                        Dumb a** [moderated]!

                                        The point here is that 50 K investment is not large it all for somebody starting their own business in any industry.

                                        Your post said nothing about thinking it was bad enough just for a tower compared to renting or something like that.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by gjacobse

                                          @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?

                                          Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.

                                          What city/zip/are is this in?

                                          I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.

                                          Mabank, Texas 75147

                                          So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .

                                          Are you f***ing stupid?

                                          Are you fing stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.

                                          Anything but building your own f***ing tower.

                                          Dumb ass!

                                          The point here is that 50 K investment is not large it all for somebody starting their own business in any industry.

                                          Your post said nothing about thinking it was bad enough just for a tower compared to renting or something like that.

                                          It was pretty f***[moderated] obvious based on the conversation. So rather than cherry picking my posts, read the topic and get an idea of the conversation.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?

                                            Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .

                                            They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.

                                            But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?

                                            WTF

                                            Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.

                                            And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?

                                            This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible

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