I am going to start an ISP
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@storageninja said in I am going to start an ISP:
@brianlittlejohn said in I am going to start an ISP:
What area of West Texas? I am in Midland/Odessa area
In Rocksprings, I can get 20Mbps down in my west pasture by the sinkhole on 4G. Cell providers are going to increasingly threaten WISPs.
Turn left at the 3rd cow, straight ahead down'yonder?
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@storageninja said in I am going to start an ISP:
@scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:
You can mitigate nearly all of that by splitting them between Vultr locations. But that still leaves account exposure primarily (I need to do a video on that!!)
I've seen Cloud Providers and ISP's fuck up their external BGP announcements and get black holed by everyone they peer with....
Verizon, Sprint and Cogent were all very helpful 10 to 15 years ago. Havent really needed that kind of help since then.
But if you do get shit from anyone tell them to #$%#$% off because you will figure it all out if you stick to it. Like anything else.
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@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
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@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
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@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
That depends on if UCRM/UNMS and the CPE equipment can support IPv6. Forums are showing that they are working on that.
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@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.
Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.
I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
That depends on if UCRM/UNMS and the CPE equipment can support IPv6. Forums are showing that they are working on that.
Yeah and that's another case in point.
I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think it was designed for easy consumption.
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@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.
Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.
I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address
yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?
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@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
Got IPv6 on my cell phone. Every time I check from work or home, its always IPv4.
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My home ISP in San Diego is IPv6, (also IPv4). My cell phone (t-mobile) is also IPv6.
I'm in Sweden now, and my cell phone data (Comviq) is also IPv6, but home data is showing IPv4... (can't get in to see if it has an IPv6 address like at home).
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@dashrender said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.
Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.
I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address
yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?
Carrier Grade NAT is where mobile carriers are heading and it solves more problems than IPv6 for them.
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?
Are you fing [moderated] stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing [moderated] sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.
Anything but building your own f***ing [moderated] tower.
Dumb a** [moderated]!
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
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Oh @JaredBusch I need to mail you some stuff, send me your address.
Snail mail
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I want to send you this mug, to go with the Oh for Fox Sake mug you got.
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?
Are you fing [moderated] stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing [moderated] sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.
Anything but building your own f***ing [moderated] tower.
Dumb a** [moderated]!
The point here is that 50 K investment is not large it all for somebody starting their own business in any industry.
Your post said nothing about thinking it was bad enough just for a tower compared to renting or something like that.
