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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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      @storageninja said in I am going to start an ISP:

      @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

      I would try to keep the business itself as paperless as possible, but would give the sub the option either way.

      This one is simple. Charge $5 more a month for paper billing and outsource it to someone who does paper billing.

      You need an avatar.

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear @StorageNinja
        last edited by

        @storageninja said in I am going to start an ISP:

        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

        I would try to keep the business itself as paperless as possible, but would give the sub the option either way.

        This one is simple. Charge $5 more a month for paper billing and outsource it to someone who does paper billing.

        You should check out zoho invoicing, they offer paper service. There stuff has come a LONG way. I was recently looking at using stripe.com and zoho for payments.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Zoho is generally quite nice.

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            StorageNinja Vendor @bigbear
            last edited by

            @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

            3.) Plenty of Tier 1 internet to contract with to your main tower site. Start with 2 connections, they will be redundant as your ip range will be hooked to a BGP. Any teir 1 internet provider will gladly walk you through all this to get your business

            You are joking, right? Level3 used to basically tell you to go @#$@ yourself if you don't know eBGP and you call them to do a link turn up.

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              StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
              last edited by Minion Queen

              @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

              You can mitigate nearly all of that by splitting them between Vultr locations. But that still leaves account exposure primarily (I need to do a video on that!!)

              I've seen Cloud Providers and ISP's f*** [moderated] up their external BGP announcements and get black holed by everyone they peer with....

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by

                Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                Just a thought!

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                  StorageNinja Vendor @brianlittlejohn
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                  @brianlittlejohn said in I am going to start an ISP:

                  What area of West Texas? I am in Midland/Odessa area

                  In Rocksprings, I can get 20Mbps down in my west pasture by the sinkhole on 4G. Cell providers are going to increasingly threaten WISPs.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @StorageNinja
                    last edited by

                    @storageninja said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    @brianlittlejohn said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    What area of West Texas? I am in Midland/Odessa area

                    In Rocksprings, I can get 20Mbps down in my west pasture by the sinkhole on 4G. Cell providers are going to increasingly threaten WISPs.

                    Turn left at the 3rd cow, straight ahead down'yonder?

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                    • bigbearB
                      bigbear @StorageNinja
                      last edited by

                      @storageninja said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      You can mitigate nearly all of that by splitting them between Vultr locations. But that still leaves account exposure primarily (I need to do a video on that!!)

                      I've seen Cloud Providers and ISP's fuck up their external BGP announcements and get black holed by everyone they peer with....

                      Verizon, Sprint and Cogent were all very helpful 10 to 15 years ago. Havent really needed that kind of help since then.

                      But if you do get shit from anyone tell them to #$%#$% off because you will figure it all out if you stick to it. Like anything else.

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                        Just a thought!

                        And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

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                        • bigbearB
                          bigbear @NerdyDad
                          last edited by

                          @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                          @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                          Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                          Just a thought!

                          And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                          I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                          Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @bigbear
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                            Just a thought!

                            And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                            I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                            Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                            It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                            Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                            On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

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                            • NerdyDadN
                              NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                              Just a thought!

                              And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                              I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                              Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                              It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                              Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                              On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                              That depends on if UCRM/UNMS and the CPE equipment can support IPv6. Forums are showing that they are working on that.

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                                Just a thought!

                                And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                                I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                                Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                                It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                                Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                                On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                                Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.

                                Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.

                                I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @NerdyDad
                                  last edited by

                                  @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                                  Just a thought!

                                  And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                                  I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                                  Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                                  It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                                  Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                                  On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                                  That depends on if UCRM/UNMS and the CPE equipment can support IPv6. Forums are showing that they are working on that.

                                  Yeah and that's another case in point.

                                  I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think it was designed for easy consumption.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @bigbear
                                    last edited by

                                    @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                                    Just a thought!

                                    And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                                    I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                                    Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                                    It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                                    Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                                    On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                                    Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.

                                    Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.

                                    I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address

                                    yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?

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                                    • NerdyDadN
                                      NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                      @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                      @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                      @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                      Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                                      Just a thought!

                                      And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                                      I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                                      Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                                      It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                                      Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                                      On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                                      Got IPv6 on my cell phone. Every time I check from work or home, its always IPv4.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        My home ISP in San Diego is IPv6, (also IPv4). My cell phone (t-mobile) is also IPv6.

                                        I'm in Sweden now, and my cell phone data (Comviq) is also IPv6, but home data is showing IPv4... (can't get in to see if it has an IPv6 address like at home).

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                                        • bigbearB
                                          bigbear @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?

                                          Just a thought!

                                          And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.

                                          I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.

                                          Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.

                                          It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.

                                          Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.

                                          On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com

                                          Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.

                                          Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.

                                          I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address

                                          yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?

                                          Carrier Grade NAT is where mobile carriers are heading and it solves more problems than IPv6 for them.

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad
                                            last edited by NerdyDad

                                            Not supported yet.

                                            https://unms.ubnt.com/

                                            0_1502399944359_UNMS road map.PNG

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