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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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      @anonymous said:

      @JaredBusch That's crazy 😞

      Well once this 2nd install is done, we will know if it was a change from release 1406 to 1511 (eww same release # as Windows 10), or if it was a difference between using the Minimal ISO or DVD ISO as a base.

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        Alex Sage
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        Wouldn't you think the minimal install would be the same on both isos?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Alex Sage
          last edited by

          @anonymous said:

          Wouldn't you think the minimal install would be the same on both isos?

          Yes. So I am honestly hoping that this Minimal install from DVD ISO also does not have it.

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            Alex Sage
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            @JaredBusch Do you know of anyway to compare the two installs to see what packages are different? It would be interesting to know.

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              Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @anonymous said:

              Wouldn't you think the minimal install would be the same on both isos?

              Yes. So I am honestly hoping that this Minimal install from DVD ISO also does not have it.

              But is must, because you used that ISO to write your guide.....

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Alex Sage
                last edited by

                @anonymous said:

                @JaredBusch said:

                @anonymous said:

                Wouldn't you think the minimal install would be the same on both isos?

                Yes. So I am honestly hoping that this Minimal install from DVD ISO also does not have it.

                But is must, because you used that ISO to write your guide.....

                I used 1406 DVD on my guide. So it could be something they changed in the process between 1406 and 1511.

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                  Alex Sage
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                  @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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                    @anonymous said:

                    @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                    The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @stacksofplates
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                      @johnhooks said:

                      @anonymous said:

                      @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                      The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                      I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

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                        Alex Sage @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        @anonymous said:

                        @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                        The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                        I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                        I did too....

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @coliver
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                          @coliver said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                          The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                          I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                          From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @anonymous said:

                            @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                            The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                            I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                            From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                            It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                            https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                              last edited by

                              @anonymous said:

                              I thought CentOS7 was using firewalld, not iptables?

                              I've been out getting groceries but... firewalld uses iptables, doesn't replace it. Whenever I see firewalld, iptables is still there.

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                                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by Alex Sage

                                @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                  last edited by

                                  @anonymous said:

                                  @JaredBusch Do you know of anyway to compare the two installs to see what packages are different? It would be interesting to know.

                                  rpm -ql >> list

                                  On each box. The do a diff on the two lists.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                    last edited by

                                    @anonymous said:

                                    @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                    Ah, it is installed but not running.

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                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller Right, so basically your whole box is exposed right?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        @anonymous said:

                                        @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                                        The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                                        I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                                        From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                                        It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                                        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

                                        http://www.firewalld.org/

                                        If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          @scottalanmiller But it is no firewall is running by default 😞

                                          Ah, it is installed but not running.

                                          no, it is not installed at all see my above screen shot..

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by coliver

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @anonymous said:

                                            @JaredBusch I see. But why would you decrease security out of the box? That seems strange to do....

                                            The firewall is still there (iptables) they just removed the management interface for some reason.

                                            I thought CentOS 7 used Firewalld and not IPTables?

                                            From what I've understood firewalld uses iptables, just makes it easier to manage. Kind of like ufw on Ubuntu.

                                            It seems like they are two different applications but there isn't much info about it on the Fedora wiki.

                                            https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Dynamic_firewall_with_FirewallD

                                            http://www.firewalld.org/

                                            If you look at the project itself, they self describe as a management tool, not as a firewall.

                                            That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

                                            Ok right from their main page - apparently my Google Fu isn't very good today:

                                            Support for iptables, ip6tables, ebtables firewall backends

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