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    • openitO
      openit @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Do I need help desk system ?:

      Just because you have one does not mean that you share it with anybody.

      Passed over my head 🙂 ?

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse
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        It is a good idea, regardless of the method, that you keep some form of 'help desk' ticketing system. This helps you determine problem trends on hardware, software or even users.

        It's also a way of documenting your activities and proving when you are in need of additional assistance.

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        • openitO
          openit @gjacobse
          last edited by

          @gjacobse said in Do I need help desk system ?:

          It is a good idea, regardless of the method, that you keep some form of 'help desk' ticketing system. This helps you determine problem trends on hardware, software or even users.

          It's also a way of documenting your activities and proving when you are in need of additional assistance.

          I understand it's good idea to have record for issues and solutions. In that case, I prefer to have help desk system than doing it on Excel, as Help desk will be more organized and free.

          Sure, I will be setting up Help desk.

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          • openitO
            openit
            last edited by openit

            @scottalanmiller @gjacobse

            I agree with maintaining Help desk. But I have two real questions :

            1. Should I enforce all users to complaint for any IT issues through Help desk only ?
              In this case, how much reasonable for me to spend time to users to guide, updating and closing tickets (which is additional work) ?

            Or

            1. Receive complaints from users and create tickets, update solution and close ticket myself ?
              In this case, it will bit additional work unlike first option but I will get organized record for issues and solutions.

            And then choosing application :

            Spiceworks Help Desk or ManageEngine Service Desk Plus ?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Having a help desk is almost always good. Forcing people to use it is only sometimes good. Help desk for you is good. For them is maybe. We don't expose helpdesk to users normally, we manage the tickets ourselves.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @openit
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                @openit said in Do I need help desk system ?:

                @scottalanmiller @gjacobse

                I agree with maintaining Help desk. But I have two real questions :

                1. Should I enforce all users to complaint for any IT issues through Help desk only ?
                  In this case, how much reasonable for me to spend time to users to guide, updating and closing tickets (which is additional work) ?

                Or

                1. Receive complaints from users and create tickets, update solution and close ticket myself ?
                  In this case, it will bit additional work unlike first option but I will get organized record for issues and solutions.

                And then choosing application :

                Spiceworks Help Desk or ManageEngine Service Desk Plus ?

                there are several options,

                • Spiceworks
                • ManageEngine
                • osTicket
                • HESK

                If you have your website hosted, it is likely they have a One Click install for osTicket... Might look there. Still free, and very functional. NTG moved to osTicket from SW and thus far, I like it better than SW....

                Overall though, I have used all four of the these,... Of them, I would go with osTicket.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  We prefer osTicket to either of the two that you mention but you have to run it yourself. But it is very easy.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Of the two that you mention, it really comes down to which you like for you.

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                    • openitO
                      openit
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                      @scottalanmiller @gjacobse

                      Thanks for feedback.

                      What attracted you people to move/stick to/with osTicket ?

                      I may choose btw SW or MD.

                      One more thought is, choosing MD will fetch on my Profile ? through hands-on experience if I wish to move to other company (as ManageEngine is known in industry and ITIL HD), is it ?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        osTicket is pretty easy to use, and fully open source. We can control everything about it and it's not so hard to use.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
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                          The first thing about helpdesks is that your company policy may require record of all IT activities, whether it for legal reasons or for the sake of record keeping or other reasons like patterns. It may also serv as a way to remember how you resolved a past similar issue.

                          Whether or not you need a ticketing system depends on if it will benefit the company. If you are walking through the halls to do a specific task, and someone stops you for one of those "quick questions", you may forget what you are going to do or you may forget what the person in the hall just tasked you with. I suppose you could walk around everywhere with a pen and pad, but that isn't always the case.

                          Ticketing systems also help to stay organized and to help prioritize things closer to the money. I don't know anyone who can live from the list of 1000 things strictly in their head. Having it documented somehow will be best.

                          We require all users to submit tickets. If you don't know if you should make a ticket, make a ticket. If a user emails you, forward it to the ticketing system. Most systems will automatically turn them into a ticket.

                          If a user calls you and its more of a request than a question, kindly ask them to submit a ticket.

                          Depends completely on your environment of course, but those are my thoughts anyway.

                          Wrote this on my cell phone which is hard, so excuse my not so well thought out points and spelling errors.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            We normally have IT submit tickets because users often put in useless tickets without useful details.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Do I need help desk system ?:

                              We normally have IT submit tickets because users often put in useless tickets without useful details.

                              Yes you'll have that. Our system automatically includes pc name and user name. So you'll have breadcrumbs at the very least to follow up with.

                              I think that's better than nothing at all. Also, IT generally doesn't have time to act as a ticket receptionist. Maybe not the case in big places where there's a team dedicated to it, but in smbs, IT is only 4 or less people.

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                              • openitO
                                openit
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                                Well, I have decided to setup help desk anyways. Will test those software and decide it later.

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                                • openitO
                                  openit
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                                  Maybe I will start maintaining (opening, updating and closing) as of now. I will think later about to involve users to Submit Tickets or no.

                                  What is unnecessary to create a ticket for ? like toner replaced, monitor was not working due to power cable loose, outlook mobile app forgot password for email etc.

                                  Do you think above kind of issues are not necessary to include in help desk system ?

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                                  • C
                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    I put everything in as I find it a useful log of my time. It's also useful to know that it's the 37th time Sue from Accounts has forgotten her password in the last 10 years.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @openit
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                                      @openit said in Do I need help desk system ?:

                                      Maybe I will start maintaining (opening, updating and closing) as of now. I will think later about to involve users to Submit Tickets or no.

                                      What is unnecessary to create a ticket for ? like toner replaced, monitor was not working due to power cable loose, outlook mobile app forgot password for email etc.

                                      Do you think above kind of issues are not necessary to include in help desk system ?

                                      I think that that is best. Zero disruption for now, learn the system, figure out how to make it useful. Then decide how to impact users later. And maybe it can be voluntary, or just for some users.

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                                      • Reid CooperR
                                        Reid Cooper
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                                        Ticketing systems are very useful, even if you only use them in the background. They help to keep you organized, they provide metrics to help you know about issues and workflows. They simplify documentation. I would highly recommend that you use one, even if just for yourself.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @openit
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                                          @openit said in Do I need help desk system ?:

                                          What is unnecessary to create a ticket for ?

                                          Everything goes in the helpdesk. If the users ask you to do it, it goes in the helpdesk, whether it is replacing their mouse, replacing the stuck N key on their keyboard, replacing toner, or fixing the coffee maker that keeps shorting out... or anything else they ask you to do.

                                          If you don't put everything into the helpdesk, things tend to slip through the cracks.

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                                          • openitO
                                            openit
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                                            Thanks all for your responses !!

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