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    • bigbearB
      bigbear
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      wispdojo?

      I will see myself out, again

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear
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        Big Bears Wireless?

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse
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          Make the client buy their end point. Don't even give them a choice. That way when another vendor comes in to do work, and just so happens to remove it.. you aren't blamed for no service for two months..

          Please,.. don't ask me about it... I just... wow...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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            @gjacobse for you...

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            • NerdyDadN
              NerdyDad @gjacobse
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              @gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:

              Make the client buy their end point. Don't even give them a choice. That way when another vendor comes in to do work, and just so happens to remove it.. you aren't blamed for no service for two months..

              Please,.. don't ask me about it... I just... wow...

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              That's been a discussion point for me and the family as well. Making them buying the product makes them responsible for taking care of their equipment. However, the price point of the CPE is kind of a turn off in comparison to the monthly prices. Therefore, we've considered payment plans for the CPE for 1 year. Want to disconnect service? Well now, the rest of the money for the CPE is due.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @gjacobse
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                @gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:

                Make the client buy their end point. Don't even give them a choice. That way when another vendor comes in to do work, and just so happens to remove it.. you aren't blamed for no service for two months..

                Please,.. don't ask me about it... I just... wow...

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                I'm of the opposite mind. "Rent" them the equipment. It won't often go bad so the monthly rental price will offset the few units that go down to lightning strikes. If units do go bad it won't be hard to just replace it and continue with the monthly rental.

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear
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                  The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                  @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse
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                    @scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad

                    well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?

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                    • NerdyDadN
                      NerdyDad @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      @scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad

                      well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?

                      Pictures would be needed after each install.

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse @NerdyDad
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                        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        @scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad

                        well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?

                        Pictures would be needed after each install.

                        agreed!

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                        • bigbearB
                          bigbear @gjacobse
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                          @gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:

                          @scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad

                          well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?

                          We have all that responsibility on the customer in our terms of service. Similar to what would happen if a Time Warner or DirecTV contract.

                          Back in my rural WISP days we had several blow away in a storm. A couple antennas were never recovered. That was back when the CPE was $2,000 a pop for a 2mb to 10mb link.

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad @bigbear
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                            @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                            The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                            @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                            In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @NerdyDad
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                              @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                              @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                              In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

                              Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.

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                              • NerdyDadN
                                NerdyDad @coliver
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                                @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                                @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                                In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

                                Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.

                                Looking at offering:

                                Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee
                                (Level 1) 5/1 $30
                                (Level 2) 10/2 $60
                                (Level 3) 25/5 $125

                                I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @NerdyDad
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                                  @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                                  @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                                  In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

                                  Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.

                                  Looking at offering:

                                  Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee
                                  (Level 1) 5/1 $30
                                  (Level 2) 10/2 $60
                                  (Level 3) 25/5 $125

                                  I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.

                                  Have you done any investigating on how much your bandwidth will actually cost?

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @coliver
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                                    @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                                    @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                                    In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

                                    Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.

                                    Looking at offering:

                                    Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee
                                    (Level 1) 5/1 $30
                                    (Level 2) 10/2 $60
                                    (Level 3) 25/5 $125

                                    I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.

                                    Have you done any investigating on how much your bandwidth will actually cost?

                                    Not yet. I've heard from others to expect $1/Mb on the first go around, so I'd be looking at about $1k+/month on just bandwidth with a potential 3-year agreement.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @NerdyDad
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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                                        @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                                        In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

                                        Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.

                                        Looking at offering:

                                        Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee
                                        (Level 1) 5/1 $30
                                        (Level 2) 10/2 $60
                                        (Level 3) 25/5 $125

                                        I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.

                                        Damn, that's a hike moving to the top tier, instead of a savings, there's a premium cost.

                                        Ummm, no it is not.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                          @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @dashrender said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.

                                          @NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.

                                          In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.

                                          Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.

                                          Looking at offering:

                                          Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee
                                          (Level 1) 5/1 $30
                                          (Level 2) 10/2 $60
                                          (Level 3) 25/5 $125

                                          I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.

                                          Damn, that's a hike moving to the top tier, instead of a savings, there's a premium cost.

                                          Ummm, no it is not.

                                          Doh, did the math wrong - but still. around here, the price isn't anywhere near linear like this pricing (even though there is a discount of $25 at the top level).

                                          Lack of choice = high prices.

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            Right, what is bad for the consumer is good for the vendor. And loads and loads of consumers actually like being taken advantage of. Don't disappoint them.

                                            Absolutely. Some consumers get mad when you dont rip them off since they have become so used to get shafted.

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