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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

      The Surface Pro line I consider to be exactly like iPads, non upgradeable.

      Maybe in that one way, but polar opposites in quality. Only works for iPad because they are so rock solid. Surface line is as far from that as broadly available gear gets.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

        What's weird is that I think MS thinks that total un-upgradeable stuff is somehow cool - a la Apple. psst.

        All they care is that their fans will buy it anyway. That's how MS and Apple are alike here.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

          @Dashrender said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

          What's weird is that I think MS thinks that total un-upgradeable stuff is somehow cool - a la Apple. psst.

          All they care is that their fans will buy it anyway. That's how MS and Apple are alike here.

          I consider myself a MS fan - but I don't buy this shit!

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @mlnews
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            @mlnews

            These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

            How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen @Obsolesce
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              @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

              @mlnews

              These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

              How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

              The issue here (I use both SurfacePro and iPads) that the Surface DOES go bad and quickly. I have an iPad that is now over 4 years old and have no issues with it other than I need to clean apps etc. off of it from time to time cause I filled it up.

              Surface's on the other hand we see as much as a 50% fail rate after one year!

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
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                At $1,400, I'd buy a decent gaming laptop for anything I wanted to do... That's the price tag on the Surface Laptops around here... And the one I've dealt with came with Windows 10S on it.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                  At $1,400, I'd buy a decent gaming laptop for anything I wanted to do... That's the price tag on the Surface Laptops around here... And the one I've dealt with came with Windows 10S on it.

                  They all come with Windows 10 S - they also all come with a free upgrade to Windows 10 Pro until at least Nov 2017.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                    @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                    @mlnews

                    These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

                    How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

                    Want to? All the time. Get to? Never.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                      At $1,400, I'd buy a decent gaming laptop for anything I wanted to do... That's the price tag on the Surface Laptops around here... And the one I've dealt with came with Windows 10S on it.

                      Way beyond decent. A good gamer is like $1,000 - $1,100.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                        @Minion-Queen said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                        @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                        @mlnews

                        These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

                        How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

                        The issue here (I use both SurfacePro and iPads) that the Surface DOES go bad and quickly. I have an iPad that is now over 4 years old and have no issues with it other than I need to clean apps etc. off of it from time to time cause I filled it up.

                        Surface's on the other hand we see as much as a 50% fail rate after one year!

                        And a fair number DOA!

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                          @Minion-Queen said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                          @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                          @mlnews

                          These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

                          How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

                          The issue here (I use both SurfacePro and iPads) that the Surface DOES go bad and quickly. I have an iPad that is now over 4 years old and have no issues with it other than I need to clean apps etc. off of it from time to time cause I filled it up.

                          Surface's on the other hand we see as much as a 50% fail rate after one year!

                          And a fair number DOA!

                          I would say ~10% of ours are DOA. It's crazy.

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @coliver
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                            @coliver said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                            @Minion-Queen said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                            @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                            @mlnews

                            These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

                            How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

                            The issue here (I use both SurfacePro and iPads) that the Surface DOES go bad and quickly. I have an iPad that is now over 4 years old and have no issues with it other than I need to clean apps etc. off of it from time to time cause I filled it up.

                            Surface's on the other hand we see as much as a 50% fail rate after one year!

                            And a fair number DOA!

                            I would say ~10% of ours are DOA. It's crazy.

                            .......

                            That's horrific!

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @coliver
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                              @coliver said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                              @Minion-Queen said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                              @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                              @mlnews

                              These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

                              How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

                              The issue here (I use both SurfacePro and iPads) that the Surface DOES go bad and quickly. I have an iPad that is now over 4 years old and have no issues with it other than I need to clean apps etc. off of it from time to time cause I filled it up.

                              Surface's on the other hand we see as much as a 50% fail rate after one year!

                              And a fair number DOA!

                              I would say ~10% of ours are DOA. It's crazy.

                              That's actually horrible.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                                @coliver said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                                @Minion-Queen said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                                @Tim_G said in Ars Technica Less Than Impressed with Surface Pro Serviceability:

                                @mlnews

                                These things, like the iPad stuff, aren't built for serviceability. You buy it with what you want. And if the SSD goes out, you don't replace it. They deal with that. If you need more RAM, then you should have bought one with more RAM, or a different system altogether.

                                How often do you want to replace the SSD in your phone or iPad?

                                The issue here (I use both SurfacePro and iPads) that the Surface DOES go bad and quickly. I have an iPad that is now over 4 years old and have no issues with it other than I need to clean apps etc. off of it from time to time cause I filled it up.

                                Surface's on the other hand we see as much as a 50% fail rate after one year!

                                And a fair number DOA!

                                I would say ~10% of ours are DOA. It's crazy.

                                That's actually horrible.

                                That's what we see as well.

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