As part of my effort to streamline recreation of my daily driver Windows box, I've been looking at posts from various Developers using Windows 10, detailing their environment configuration. They generally have pretty extensive application / package dependencies so it seemed like a good source of tips and strategies.

I stumbled across mentions of Scoop and AppGet. I'd heard of Scoop, it was on my radar, but AppGet, I've no knowledge of. It uses YAML for manifests (which are open source and stored in GitHub). Seems to be a decent (and current) list of Packages.

I do use Chocolatey on my PC and for helping patch the Windows PCs at work, but it's not been super smooth sailing.

Anyone spent any time using AppGet?

Update - Developer manifesto AppGet, What Chocolatey wasn’t

@scottalanmiller these discussions echo my thoughts exactly. I'm only (hesitantly) learning Docker now, but it feels like it's not a long term answer(I'm possibly too late to the party?), as other approaches are increasing in mind-share.

@StuartJordan I kinda like the netplan approach (ducks for cover)

Fedora 30 workstation is very nice - testing on an intel nuc5ppyh(I have a bunch to look after) that so far, all the recent *buntu derived distros (haven't tested Pop!_OS though) exhibit random freezing and graphical glitches. "nomodeset" etc is painful. So far F30 is glitch free :crossed_fingers: .

Would be nice to sit on just one flavoured distro for the Linux side of things here. Not sure I'm loving the Snap thing either..

@JaredBusch I'm not quite at that level of dissatisfaction, but it's feeling like its time to move

@scottalanmiller this sounds dare-I-say-it... "Smooth"? Trawling ML at the moment, trying to decide if to move from Ubuntu server

...so, no Wayland issues? Java dependency isn't mentioned anywhere :thumbs_up:
I'm a paid user of ConnectWise Access and luckily I predominantly support Windows PCs and Servers, as the ConnectWise Linux agent is less than ideal.

@Obsolesce said in Generating a list of Software to Reinstall on Windows 10:

I usually just copy/paste a Chocolatey install command that does it all at once. Everything else is on separate media that requires no install. Example, copy over games, import them in... such as into Steam.

I've been using the powershell script from alimbada's github repo

This has been a huge issue for me, requiring additional complexity and overhead of a domain for reliably (and simply) enabling / using the "nice" features of Hyper-V.

@Emad-R I think there's subtle differences, especially relating to seamless integration with particular distros. This might be down to the differences / approaches @scottalanmiller mentioned between the distros (and if the developers have a particular distro persuasion one way or the other - despite aiming to be agnostic)

I stumbled across Alexander Larrson's blog, interesting reading, even a Flatpak on WSL post!

I just hope that maybe, given these are fresh initiatives in a time of ever-increasing current security and privacy concerns, we're going to benefit from a better way of doing things?

@black3dynamite said in Fedora Love:

Damn, that was a challenge typing that on a phone.

Haha! You did well

I'd seen the article on the inclusion of select 3rd party repos with Workstation, this piqued my interest on revisiting Fedora. ScreenConnect was my drama though, hence Cinnamon. I've been doing digging on what these Repo changes actually are and how to enact on Cinnamon (given no Gnome and if that mattered) .

I've just been looking at a posting on the Fedora Forums talking about it . Seems that there's differences from what you get enabling through Workstation (and Gnome Software) and using sudo dnf install fedora-workstation-repositories on other Spins.

@black3dynamite said in Fedora Love:

@JaredBusch said in Fedora Love:

@Emad-R said in Fedora Love:

@warren-stanley said in Fedora Love:

I'm tentatively moving into my replacement daily driver - a Fedora Cinnamon Spin flavoured PC. ScreenConnect was problematic until I found @JaredBusch 's post "How to run JNLP files on Fedora Cinnamon with Firefox"

Any love for Flatpak or are most sticking with the native DNF + repos?

I tried them but ended using snaps, wanted to install slack and had some issues under LXqt only snap behaved well.

Also this COPR addons are interesting:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/

I do not understand COPR. Most people that can build anrpm will just do so and host it. I mean I don't browse the repo list looking for software to install. I hear about it here or elsewhere and then go to the vendor website and follow their install guide.

If said vendor is going to make a rpm, they can just host it themselves and tell people to dnf install https://some.url

Then they can look at getting in to the Fedora repos directly.
Or if there are some non-free sub components, they can get in the RPM Fusion repos.

It sounds like it does all the hard work into building your packages and repo.

I remember needed to used copr to install restic. Now you can install it directly from Fedora repo.

Is it for Extra-Bleeding-Edge apps (not yet / not likely to ever be in the Fedora Repos)??
The COPR Project page also mentions:

"NOTE: Copr is not yet officially supported by Fedora Infrastructure."

I get the feeling focus will move towards distro independent package installation solutions. Until then I think I'll stick with DNF, RPM Fusion and maybe selective Flatpak use.

@Emad-R COPR feels a bit like attempts to emulate Ubuntu's use of 3rd party repos? I've seen some interesting projects mentioned in Fedora Magazine

Thanks for the heads-up @JaredBusch , I'll watch that space. I do appreciate the input from everyone actually using and testing this stuff.

I'm tentatively moving into my replacement daily driver - a Fedora Cinnamon Spin flavoured PC. ScreenConnect was problematic until I found @JaredBusch 's post "How to run JNLP files on Fedora Cinnamon with Firefox"

Any love for Flatpak or are most sticking with the native DNF + repos?

@aaronstuder - have you got anything to report back on the application in use?

@obsolesce said in Cloudberry Backup Linux:

@warren-stanley said in Cloudberry Backup Linux:

@aaronstuder I've been looking at this, more on the Windows Server backup angle though. I'd like to find options for agent based backups (entertaining KVM hosts, in place of Hyper-V, primarily running Windows guests). Same query however, I'm looking for peoples experiences.

As a side note - they have a remote assistant that I'm trialing (always cautious of building a dependency on products that don't have a $ tag "yet").

https://www.cloudberrylab.com/remote-assistant.aspx

It's actually been surprisingly good. My needs might be simpler than some however.

Have you looked at Restic?

Looking at the documentation now. Is this something you're using?

@aaronstuder I've been looking at this, more on the Windows Server backup angle though. I'd like to find options for agent based backups (entertaining KVM hosts, in place of Hyper-V, primarily running Windows guests). Same query however, I'm looking for peoples experiences.

As a side note - they have a remote assistant that I'm trialing (always cautious of building a dependency on products that don't have a $ tag "yet").

https://www.cloudberrylab.com/remote-assistant.aspx

It's actually been surprisingly good. My needs might be simpler than some however.

@360col said in 365 migration tools?:

Re: 365 migration tools?

Whats your budget? No budget and have to do manually or do you need minimal downtime and can pay. Are you planning to do it your self or get someone in to do it. How much down time can you afford.?

If you have a budget there are tools like SkyKick, Migration Wiz and its many competitor etc to automated and simply the migration / reduce down time re-config outlook all al workstation etc.

There is another tool that has a once off cost (the name escape me at the moment) where you install in on a local desktop / server and it can transfer your Exchange mailboxes & contacts to Office365. It not as spiffy as the others however is more affordable.

Skykick is for ‘Partners’ though?

@olivier said in XCP-ng project:

True, it's still over 9000

Thanks a lot for your support guys. Now, we start a new adventure

So, how is the adventure going ? any updates Oliver ?

Pretty sure that's part of the patch(es) applied for Meltdown & Spectre - I also have it on XS7.2 hosts