@BRRABill just to start

AFAIK even Dell can be managed with plain ipmi. at least this is what a dell representative said me last year during a meeting.
don't think so about HPE.
these are SM IPMI tools. I think some are free some are not.

try this reading

Last time I checked you were not entitled to install redhat without paid support: you had to remove it from the server. You were ok with the sources. Maybe this is now different.

FFS

@Breffni-Potter has been a pain with centos on dl160. It is now with dl380 and hyperv

@JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

FFS

Dell requires Java

@JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

FFS

Dell requires Java

Fail and more fail.

It's only if you want to remote consul so not totally horrible the pages work just fine without it it's just Webb

That's the same with hp all web but console

@scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

@IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

FFS

Or .net

I've powered on a brand new dl380g9 today and I've discovered that some features available in my "old" dl160g9 are now subject to extra licensing.

e.g., with my basic iLO in the dl160 I was able to use remote console even after POST, now I can't on the dl380.
I was able to setup my e-mail address for alerts from iLO, now I need an additional license.

mmm... both systems have the bundled iLO version, which , to be honest, I do not expect to be stripped down in a dl380 wrt a dl160, as the former costs something like 3x the latter.

only difference is in firmware version: the dl380 has a newer one. really thinking about NOT upgrading the dl160 iLO. grrr

maybe I'm missing something or HPE is going more oracle-ish day after day...

systemd has got this since early development. this, among other things (PID 1 master process...etc), was one of the reasons Poettering designed systemd. It borrowed this idea from other systems like this

@Tim_G said in Hyper-v and windows updates: how do you deal with that?:

The following Friday night, all of my weekly backups take place and complete. This goes for a while, but never overlapping with updates.(automatically)

Starting Saturday evening, all the hypervisors then go ahead and install updates, and reboot automatically if needed.

Yes, I backup VMs before any update cycle, anyway currently, the hypervisor is updated "by hand" on a best effort basis. After all backups. Only VMs are automatically patched and rebooted after a backup.

Considering what you are saying, your logic is not to stick as close as possible with security fixes, but, rather, stage them for a while having time to review them (or catch some other unfortunate guy how has hit a "bug"). am I wrong?

@Tim_G said in Hyper-v and windows updates: how do you deal with that?:

Note: I have all VMs on all hosts set to either Shutdown or save state upon a host reboot, and then set to start up automatically and in a specific order when the host is back up.

Yes this is exaclty what I'm doing now with KVM

@Tim_G said in Hyper-v and windows updates: how do you deal with that?:

Hyper-V Server 2016 hosts (among others, but leaving those out of this).

why? As it is a new deploymnet I was going the hyper-v 2016 route... still not ready for prime time? If so, I've to double check 2012 r2 features as I have a lot of linux VMs.

Hi,

for a number of reasons, I'm considering to use hyper-v as my next hypervisor at work. Before starting anything serious with it, my question is: how do you deal with windows updates in a hyper-v server 201x (the free version)? I mean that everytime windows has to upgrade I'm a bit scarried because now and then something goes wrong.

Now, one thing is to "kill" an eth driver on a client (Dell win 10 certified PC, not a frankenstein stuff), another is to kill an entire legion of VMs on a host for something like this.

Have you ever got issues with hyper-v security updates? I'm mostly oriented towards the hyper-v server, not a full fledged server.

thanks,
M

@Tim_G said in Issue installing Korora:

I may just end up sticking to Debian based distributions (for non-server use). Haven't had any trouble with those... but Mint is too much for me, I don't like it for myself. Though, it'd set it up for my parents or grand parents. I don't like the route Ubuntu went, so it's not a preference, but it works well.

You can try ubuntu Mate. this is my current develop env and it runs in a VM. My personal laptop runs debian with gnome 3.
That was my workstation before I shut down my company.

anyway, if you are more of a redhat guy, have you evern seen this?

About the error: it's python, if you can post it all, maybe I can help debugging the thing.

@scottalanmiller yes, I my fault. almost sure they were buyed by Dell, but they just provided the software on top of some Dell products.

has this anything to do with dell? or is it just the company internal c-levels?

@coliver said in 3D Printed House:

@travisdh1 said in 3D Printed House:

@gjacobse said in 3D Printed House:

My only question is where is the rebar?

They were using fiberglass instead of rebar for that extra support.

IIRC once hardened it functions almost identically to rebar reinforced concrete. Which is kind of amazing.

It can even be stronger depending on the mixture.

To me an appliace if a piece of vm or hw with specific software which:
1- wants you to think as it wants and not as you want ( while opensource applianxe then let you drop to the cmd line, but just try to by pass std interface and look at the messy you do)
2- has Everything bundled in a more or less obscure blackbox
3- has unified support for both hw and sw.

Currently 2 win, 1 phys and 1 vm, and 4 linux vm excluding hosts (xen/kvm). Going to have 8/9 linuxes and 3+1 windows in next months, say april.
Use Windows only when our required software can't run elsewhere.
You have to add 3 phys linuxes if you count nas stuff and pbx.