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    What is the best degree for IT?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      Perspective again.
      That $5/month gets you a server to build something on. then nuke it and do something else. More money means more at once, but not required for all things.

      And you can work on it and turn it off when you are done. If you are too busy to be using it, turn it off and pay nothing.

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        Jason Banned @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        Old hardware? How much electricity that going to cost you. Think about it. Power up an old server and just feel the heat coming off of it. So not only do you have the power for the system and monitor, you also have the power to your HVAC in the house running more. The costs are real. The math is fairly simple to work out.

        Solution? Only run servers in winter then turn down Central Heat source 😉 jk.

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          WingCreative @Draco8573
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          @Draco8573 said:

          @Dashrender yeah don't have the money. But my work is going to be throwing away some old pcs and server parts ill see if i can get some of that.

          Check this out! $50 in DigitalOcean credit for students, along with a ton of other resources that will help you get started doing tech stuff.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @WingCreative
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            @WingCreative said:

            @Draco8573 said:

            @Dashrender yeah don't have the money. But my work is going to be throwing away some old pcs and server parts ill see if i can get some of that.

            Check this out! $50 in DigitalOcean credit for students, along with a ton of other resources that will help you get started doing tech stuff.

            That is awesome. Don't forget that Amazon has a free tier too!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              And cloud provider experience is important for your resume as well.

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                Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                That is awesome. Don't forget that Amazon has a free tier too!

                With lots of loopholes, they almost always find a way to charge you.

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                  WingCreative
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                  In my experience, it has been pretty straightforward to stay within the free tier as long as I stick to one EC2 instance at a time with <30gb attached EBS storage.

                  Learning to use AWS would definitely be a marketable IT skill - here's a rundown on what you can use the AWS services for. The AWS console is a lot to take in at first, but you can do a lot with it just by learning how to manage EC2 instances. You can also run one small instance for free for the first year you have your account - which is probably all you would need to get some good hands-on experience building servers from scratch.

                  I started learning how to manage virtual servers on DigitalOcean. The interface was much easier for me to learn how to use because it's entirely focused on building virtual servers... unlike AWS, which can do about a billion different things with its dashboard full of options. You also have the ability to load up a variety of pre-configured servers on DO, so if you'd rather skip learning how to install an application at first you can dive right into messing around with it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @WingCreative
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                    @WingCreative said:

                    You also have the ability to load up a variety of pre-configured servers on DO, so if you'd rather skip learning how to install an application at first you can dive right into messing around with it.

                    This is the drawback to them as well - you can't roll your own or use other pre rolled installs, like FreePBX distro.

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                      hubtechagain
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                      Let me tell you from experience. If you want to be a mediocre IT Generalist, drop out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Jason
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                        @Jason said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        That is awesome. Don't forget that Amazon has a free tier too!

                        With lots of loopholes, they almost always find a way to charge you.

                        I got a free year without any effort.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @WingCreative said:

                          You also have the ability to load up a variety of pre-configured servers on DO, so if you'd rather skip learning how to install an application at first you can dive right into messing around with it.

                          This is the drawback to them as well - you can't roll your own or use other pre rolled installs, like FreePBX distro.

                          Only of a base OS. You can roll your own starting from their bases but you can't use a third party installer.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Vultr is extremely affordable as well for learning.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              http://mangolassi.it/topic/6514/what-is-your-educational-goal

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                                Jason Banned
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                                Some what related: http://mangolassi.it/topic/6527/the-college-conspiracy

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Here is a great example of why college degrees get zero respect: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1261417-anyone-with-implementing-spiceworks-at-work-as-final-year-degree-project

                                  His final degree project is literally something so basic we'd expect a high school intern to do it with little, if any, direction. Double click the installer, fix authentication issues case by case. This is way below entry level stuff. And to be a degree final?!?! How can anyone take a college graduate seriously if they think that this somehow prepares them for working in IT?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    I saw that topic yesterday and just left it alone.

                                    I'd be pissed if my college education taught me how to run an installer on a Windows Server....

                                    Totally pissed, to the point where I'd demand a refund for my education.

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen
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                                      This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        I saw that topic yesterday and just left it alone.

                                        I'd be pissed if my college education taught me how to run an installer on a Windows Server....

                                        Totally pissed, to the point where I'd demand a refund for my education.

                                        Pretty much par for the college course, from what I've seen.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                                          @Minion-Queen said:

                                          This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.

                                          Might be one we've actually had them do.

                                          It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.

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                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Minion-Queen said:

                                            This is exactly the type of things we have High School interns do.

                                            Might be one we've actually had them do.

                                            It's not a criticism of Spiceworks, it's a compliment that the software is that easy to use. But if a professor thinks that that shows that you've learned something, it just tells me that that professor isn't up to NTG's high school intern level yet.

                                            Those who can't... teach ?

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