Should I consider taking the new position of my pay grade stays the same?
I think this is one of the big questions.
Is the new role something you would enjoy more irrespective of a pay bump?
I'm not sure. It will be no more writing code and doing troubleshooting like I'm used to doing now. I will miss getting to do the technical work, but at the same time I won't miss working through the corporate labyrinth for millions of different things. Every time I need a firewall rule opened, kms key created, dns entry, ssl cert created , etc I have to open a ticket to another team. Every team is different and it's an annoying process. Much more annoying than doing those things myself, because if I don't give exact details on how to create what I need it isn't done right.
Oh and Monday access to manage compute instances dissappeared as our IAM team is constantly stripping permissions in search for true zero trust. It's great to try to achieve it, but man stuff breaks randomly and then I have to open a ticket, they close it a day later because it wasnt the right type of ticket, then I reopen again and they fix the issue finally after 3 days.
Or would the only enjoyment or benefit of the new role come from the pay bump and not the role?
Would the new role be worth more should you take the role for a year or two with no pay bump, but result in like a 20% base pay increase at a new company later? Maybe that would be worth it. Maybe the new role would give a slight pay bump at your current company, and lead to more bonus/equity/etc, and/or more pay raises there too.
Maybe. I'm paid very well for my current position. I spent alot of time targeting a specific salary that is higher than most for my role. It's very hard for me to leave and match just my pay let alone all the other factors that are nice to have in a recession like FTE, yearly bonus, paid training, conferences up to $10k a year, etc. Also, some very intelligent people at my company so I feel I can still learn.
What do other companies pay for that new role now? What might they pay in two years? Maybe in 2 years of having this new role, you could at a different company get hired at a higher level like Principal or similar, resulting in a few hundred $K more total comp per year.
I do job searches sometimes, and get alot of messages daily about jobs (many of them revealing salary). I've got to be on top 5% for pay I think for my role. FAANG and maybe some big time banks could do a little better, but overall I'm very happy compared to what I've seen being offered
You could answer these best, but may help to point them out.
Maybe a bump in pay isn't what you want then, just a job you find more fulfilling and maybe some more clout or latitude.
Also remember you only need to hit about 60-70% of the job description. And you can get a much better job after only about 6 months at a new job. Keep track of your accomplishments and continuously learn and improve.
My guess would be yes. Most of those released 2015-2016. We've since seen their 3rd gen products released around 2018 with the HD products, and now the UAP6 devices are starting to trickle out. Doesn't really make sense to keep promoting the older stuff.
Typically we see engineers cap out around $225K. But admins head closer to $500K.
Also, CIOs were more likely to be pulled from the admin ranks, not the engineer ranks. Because engineering was nearly all technical while admins had to be able to do everything an engineer could do, but apply it to the business in real time, deal with active security, and fix what the engineers broke all with the pressure on.
Also, in the SMB space, engineering is the low cost afterthought that admins do. It's maybe 5% of the job, and the easiest 5%. Consider how little knowledge or effort goes into installing a new server, and how much goes into supporting it after it is installed. We often have the most junior staff do the engineering parts because typically it requires the least experience or knowledge, and it can be double checked so doesn't matter even if they get something wrong - there is a chance to fix it before it goes live.
bro I think you lost your mind no one is making this much money in those roles
Don't confuse "I don't" with "other people don't."
The top end of IT is generally limited to a few physical locations (NY, London, Zurich) and to a few industries. So you aren't going to find it in some SMB shop, nor in some small village (other than in CT.)
This company however says they do not charge the company but charge the candidate due to the service they provide and managing/promoting the candidate. The cost seems pretty expensive too at just below £1000, which is $1,400 USD.
That's an itty, bitty fraction of the cost that the companies pay. So this means that the math alone doesn't make sense. How could these guys make money. Sure, good headhunters do really, really well. But that's because they place something like 90% of the executive level staff out there. These guys are claiming to only be going after some tiny sliver of a percentage of the market, while doing so at a tiny percentage of the pay? Doesn't add up. If they were legit, they'd hardly make a penny.
Yeah placement fees can be $50k or more easily
Yeah, for sure. Good headhunters can place no more than one person a quarter and be doing pretty well. It's not like normal recruiting where they make at most a few thousand dollars and have to do big volumes. This is very diligent service with huge amounts of time going into every placement.
and I believe in Denmark you have to employ a certain percentage of female executives.
Roughly the same in the US, except you can never do so intentionally. You have to hire them organically. If you can't, you are stuck. But the laws aren't that strict, which is good, since there aren't that many women in most fields so you often can't get a candidate.
The new gig that I'll start on Monday began with a cold contact I received on LinkedIn. The one before that I think from a cold call from a recruiter.
As far as IT Manager, are you specifically wanting to manage people? I know my manager at my current gig is hands on with projects and really has to do minimal managing of us. I've also seen people with the title of "IT Manager" but they're a one-person-show in IT at said comapny, so there isn't anyone for them to actually manage.
what about the Windows Defender, I mean the antivirus and the firewall of Windows They go hand in hand right?
They go together as in they are both security components of the Windows operating system. But that's about the extent of it. They are both very good, they should both always be used, they are both for the purpose of security. But they are not actually associated other than in name.