IT Infrastructure Career
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Experience, proven knowledge, good resume/references, and learning the proper way to do things and continually learning new things is a lot more powerful than certs though. Certs get HR to look at you, not much else.
For general applications at various places, the easiest way to get a job is to HAVE a cert or degree that HR will look at in the first place.
I agree that certs and degrees are generally useless once people have a certain amount of experience. But not everyone is able to start off as an intern or other similar task.
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@Lakshmana said:
Hi All,
I am Lakshmana Shiva from India interested in IT Security but am unsure of What I want to pursue or how to switch from what I am doing currently into a security role.Can anyone suggest me ?Yeah, don't.
I had a long and involved, probably racist, response, but it boils down to this. If you have to ask, you will never know. The hubris of thinking you have been a desktop grunt for 6 months and think that qualifies you to jump into security says how little you actually have for experience.
Go work, get experience, and maybe in a few years, re-approach this.
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@PSX_Defector said:
Go work, get ex
yes I know sir.My long term goal is Security side.So I am just getting information about that field thats it
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@PSX_Defector Dude.... Lucky I'm not in the same room as you right now.
@Lakshmana For security you have a lot of reading / learning to do. There are a ton of courses online to get you rolling, others will have some better resources for you than I can suggest right at the moment. I wish you all the best!
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@MattSpeller said:
@PSX_Defector Dude.... Lucky I'm not in the same room as you right now.
Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a [moderated] attitude, you would be in the same boat too.
As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.
[moderator message: Please keep it professional]
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@PSX_Defector said:
Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a shit attitude, you would be in the same boat too.
As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.
Quit this while you're behind man. At the very minimum it does not belong in this thread.
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@MattSpeller said:
@PSX_Defector said:
Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a shit attitude, you would be in the same boat too.
As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.
Quit this while you're behind man. At the very minimum it does not belong in this thread.
[full reply moderated out due to community guideline violation]
[moderator message: Please keep it professional personal opinions on this type of thing are not in line with the OP]
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@PSX_Defector Just because you had some bad experience with one or two guys, please do not consider everyone that way. Those kinds of people are in every country. I've seen kids who excel in IT just out of pure interest in learning and no experience. If @Lakshmana wants to know some details on whatever he wants to pursue, we just need to share the info.
Honestly I could see the same unprofessionalism in your comments, we are all IT Pros and are here to share our knowledge, learn from
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@Ambarishrh Thanks for your valuable comment Sir
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And comments like that show a level of unprofessionalism that justifies work going elsewhere. If Americans can't act professionally, even if we can do the work technically, that just makes it a no brainer to send jobs elsewhere.
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Please turn your reply's back to answering the OP. Thank you.
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Since you are is still pretty new in IT I would suggest starting your study (you have gotten many suggestions here) and also combining it with coming to a community such as this with questions.
Also building out your own home lab to testing things and get your hands on experience is really important. Or finding a way to intern in the area you are looking to learn.
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@scottalanmiller So true!
@Lakshmana your'e welcome. Please feel free to ask anything in IT in the forum and I am sure a lot of people will come forward to help you without any hesitation. Wish you all success.Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications
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@Minion-Queen Madam Thanks for your suggestion I can't make home lab I am interested to attend intern to improve my knowledge
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@Ambarishrh Thanks for your support sir
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What is keeping you from having a home lab? Space? Cost?
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@Ambarishrh said:
Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications
Good article, though I'm wondering where they are seeing this. I haven't. " Entry-level security jobs are becoming more and more common so you won't necessarily have to pay your dues through junior network admin or junior helpdesk positions."
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@Lakshmana said:
@Minion-Queen Madam Thanks for your suggestion I can't make home lab I am interested to attend intern to improve my knowledge
You can do VM's for almost all of it.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Ambarishrh said:
Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications
Good article, though I'm wondering where they are seeing this. I haven't. " Entry-level security jobs are becoming more and more common so you won't necessarily have to pay your dues through junior network admin or junior helpdesk positions."
Where are people seeing entry level security jobs? Does anyone have a good "picture" of what the job role, pay, responsibilities and such typically are? I've only seen a few places with security roles and they were always very senior and expected a lot of technical background.
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@Ambarishrh said:
@PSX_Defector Just because you had some bad experience with one or two guys, please do not consider everyone that way.
Think over 500. Just right now. Thousands in the past.
There are folks who DO know what they are doing. OP might be in that boat. But facts are facts, he's not got enough experience to even contemplate a security career path at this point. Everyone needs experience to even understand the fundamentals of how to secure networks. 6 months working as a desktop goon does not bring that.
I'm not anything if not blunt and honest. And if folks don't like that, then screw 'em.
