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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
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      What do the asterisks mean?

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in Email server options:

        What do the asterisks mean?

        I'm guessing the asterisks are showing more than standard features?
        that is the only place they are on there.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @JaredBusch
          last edited by WrCombs

          @JaredBusch what would it take to create you're own- self hosted zimbra server?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @WrCombs
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            @WrCombs said in Email server options:

            @JaredBusch what would it take to create you're own- self hosted zimbra server?

            @dbeato wrote this.
            https://mangolassi.it/topic/16490/setup-zimbra-8-8-6-on-centos-7

            Setting it up is not horrid.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              Self hosted is obviously a downside to email for a SMB.

              We are not in the business of hosting email. I am not adding that liability to our company.

              If the client wants self hosted, it exists on their premises or colo or wtf-ever, and we make sure backups etc.

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m
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                If they are using Outlook, how are they licensed? Will they continue to use the full Outlook client if you go with Office 365 or Exchange? If that is the case, you probably need to factor the tier that includes the office software for Business, etc.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @wrx7m
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                  If they are using Outlook, how are they licensed? Will they continue to use the full Outlook client if you go with Office 365 or Exchange? If that is the case, you probably need to factor the tier that includes the office software for Business, etc.

                  You likely need to reread what I typed. Because nothing you say here matters to what I said.

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m
                    last edited by

                    We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch You said that they are currently using Outlook. Will they continue to use Outlook if you stick with Exchange or go to Office 365?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @wrx7m
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                        @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                        @JaredBusch You said that they are currently using Outlook. Will they continue to use Outlook if you stick with Exchange or go to Office 365?

                        Outlook works with every single option listed above. It has nothing to do with the choice of email server.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @wrx7m
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                          @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                          We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                          You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Keep MailCow in the list for self hosted along with Zimbra, too.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                              @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                              We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                              You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

                              Agreed. However, when discussing Office 365, they are usually intertwined.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Email server options:

                                Keep MailCow in the list for self hosted along with Zimbra, too.

                                Added. Now i need information about it.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                  last edited by

                                  @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                  @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                  We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                                  You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

                                  Agreed. However, when discussing Office 365, they are usually intertwined.

                                  Never.

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                    @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                    @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                    We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                                    You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

                                    Agreed. However, when discussing Office 365, they are usually intertwined.

                                    Never.

                                    OK. Please explain how they don't offer licensing packages/tiers with both, Exchange online and the client software.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                      last edited by

                                      @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                      @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                      @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                      We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                                      You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

                                      Agreed. However, when discussing Office 365, they are usually intertwined.

                                      Never.

                                      OK. Please explain how they don't offer licensing packages/tiers with both, Exchange online and the client software.

                                      I never said they did not. You keep injecting shit here.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                        @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                        @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                        @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                        We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                                        You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

                                        Agreed. However, when discussing Office 365, they are usually intertwined.

                                        Never.

                                        OK. Please explain how they don't offer licensing packages/tiers with both, Exchange online and the client software.

                                        I never said they did not. You keep injecting shit here.

                                        OK. Good luck.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                          @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                          @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Email server options:

                                          @wrx7m said in Email server options:

                                          We had slightly fewer mailboxes. I did a 6-year projection for just the software licensing costs of Exchange 2016 vs Office 365 Business Premium and since we already used proplus, the self-hosted Exchange was far more costly. Obviously, if you aren't already using an Office365 plan in some regards, the comparison is going to be closer.

                                          You mixed licensing the desktop clients with the server licensing. those are separate and distinct needs.

                                          Agreed. However, when discussing Office 365, they are usually intertwined.

                                          Never.

                                          OK. Please explain how they don't offer licensing packages/tiers with both, Exchange online and the client software.

                                          I never said they did not. You keep injecting shit here.

                                          OK. Good luck.

                                          i very clearly specified Exchange Online Plan 1. Nothing else.
                                          Office365 has many licenses that include many things. I never denied that.
                                          But I stated, you never mix desktop application decisions with email server decisions.

                                          Do they potentially work together? sometimes. But when I also specified Outlook, not Office, that matters.

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                                          • PhlipElderP
                                            PhlipElder
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                                            I'd stick with the Exchange based back end.

                                            As far as migrating goes, there's plenty of third party products out there, or, if there's not a lot of users then a simple export to PST and import on the new setup would work.

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