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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse @Romo
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      @romo
      I would from time to time see issues with the video and it resolved with the forced re-install of the SC agent.

      This can be done from the SC panel, so isn't terrible to do.

      And it may not work.

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      • RomoR
        Romo @gjacobse
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        @gjacobse Will be doing this as well, thanks Gene

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato
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          The experience we have had was due to Dell Services and other programs running on startup. I have removed them using autoruns from Sysinternals.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

            The experience we have had was due to Dell Services and other programs running on startup. I have removed them using autoruns from Sysinternals.

            We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

              @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

              The experience we have had was due to Dell Services and other programs running on startup. I have removed them using autoruns from Sysinternals.

              We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

              okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @dbeato
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                @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

                @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

                The former does mot mean the latter. Though it does mean the latter is at least possible. But it is highly unlikely. Using imaging takes more resources, that mostly is not worth it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                  @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                  The experience we have had was due to Dell Services and other programs running on startup. I have removed them using autoruns from Sysinternals.

                  We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

                  okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

                  Just the Windows install media.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                    We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

                    @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                    okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

                    The former does mot mean the latter. Though it does mean the latter is at least possible. But it is highly unlikely. Using imaging takes more resources, that mostly is not worth it.

                    Correct, it's a small environment and this is the first of new machines. We'd be making a golden image for about eight people. Which could make sense, but as we are planning to move to Windows Home, instead of Pro, it makes even less sense going forward.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Tried this, but it didn't work...

                      Timeout Detection and Recovery is a Windows feature that can detect when the video adapter hardware or a driver on your computer has taken longer than expected to complete an operation. When this occurs, Windows attempts to recover and reset the graphics hardware. If the GPU is unable to recover and reset the graphics hardware in the time permitted (two seconds), your system may become unresponsive, and display the error message β€œDisplay driver stopped responding and has recovered.”

                      Giving it 8 seconds instead of the default two as recommended by Microsoft to fix some issues

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                        @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                        @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                        The experience we have had was due to Dell Services and other programs running on startup. I have removed them using autoruns from Sysinternals.

                        We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

                        okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

                        Just the Windows install media.

                        So you just reinstall Windows which is fine. Which we do, but the issue happened to companies that just had the standard image (OEM) from Dell and the Dell Support Services were there.

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                          We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

                          @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                          okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

                          The former does mot mean the latter. Though it does mean the latter is at least possible. But it is highly unlikely. Using imaging takes more resources, that mostly is not worth it.

                          Yeah, you are correct. Small customers rarely would want to do imaging for us, so we reinstall most of the time to have a clean OS.

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                          • RomoR
                            Romo
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                            Errors still keep happening, started trying with older drivers to see which one finally works and resolves the issue.

                            We have the event logging now:
                            Event ID 4101
                            display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered

                            So it is some driver issue.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Here is what Reliability Monitor says..

                              0_1535667712383_Screenshot from 2018-08-30 17-21-09.png

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                And digging in...

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  @EddieJennings found a BIOS update to apply. Trying that...

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                                  • RomoR
                                    Romo @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller We are testing an updated driver + the TDR registry fix before trying the upgrade on the BIOS

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Cumulative 1803 update suddenly available for it. Giving that a shot now.

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                                      • RomoR
                                        Romo
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                                        Before the update, we ran Furmark for 30 minutes to stress test the gpu and try to trigger the error but the gpu ran perfectly without a single error.

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                                        • RomoR
                                          Romo
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                                          @scottalanmiller triggered the error again, so updates didn't help😞.

                                          Ran a webgl benchmark in chrome on one monitor while surfing on the other. Watching CPUZ, temp was reaching 60C when the errors where logged.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Romo
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                                            @romo said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                                            @scottalanmiller triggered the error again, so updates didn't help😞.

                                            Ran a webgl benchmark in chrome on one monitor while surfing on the other. Watching CPUZ, temp was reaching 60C when the errors where logged.

                                            Now that's getting pretty warm.

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