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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

      @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

      We've got VERY little of that, totally clean internal build.

      @dbeato said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

      okay, so are you using a Golden Image correct?

      The former does mot mean the latter. Though it does mean the latter is at least possible. But it is highly unlikely. Using imaging takes more resources, that mostly is not worth it.

      Yeah, you are correct. Small customers rarely would want to do imaging for us, so we reinstall most of the time to have a clean OS.

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      • RomoR
        Romo
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        Errors still keep happening, started trying with older drivers to see which one finally works and resolves the issue.

        We have the event logging now:
        Event ID 4101
        display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered

        So it is some driver issue.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Here is what Reliability Monitor says..

          0_1535667712383_Screenshot from 2018-08-30 17-21-09.png

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            And digging in...

            0_1535667746872_Screenshot from 2018-08-30 17-22-17.png

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              @EddieJennings found a BIOS update to apply. Trying that...

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              • RomoR
                Romo @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller We are testing an updated driver + the TDR registry fix before trying the upgrade on the BIOS

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Cumulative 1803 update suddenly available for it. Giving that a shot now.

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                  • RomoR
                    Romo
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                    Before the update, we ran Furmark for 30 minutes to stress test the gpu and try to trigger the error but the gpu ran perfectly without a single error.

                    0_1535764545698_60006560-BC90-4BD2-9C2A-112BDC45B534.jpeg

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                    • RomoR
                      Romo
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                      @scottalanmiller triggered the error again, so updates didn't help😞.

                      Ran a webgl benchmark in chrome on one monitor while surfing on the other. Watching CPUZ, temp was reaching 60C when the errors where logged.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Romo
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                        @romo said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                        @scottalanmiller triggered the error again, so updates didn't help😞.

                        Ran a webgl benchmark in chrome on one monitor while surfing on the other. Watching CPUZ, temp was reaching 60C when the errors where logged.

                        Now that's getting pretty warm.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          @EddieJennings is going to play with it shortly. His local Microcenter just opened 12 minutes ago. He's going to pick up thermal grease, go in, and reseat everything, regrease the CPU, do the BIOS update, and we'll test again. If that doesn't work, this afternoon he's going to pop in an NVidia card to see if we can bypass the problem that way.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            @EddieJennings put in an NVidia card to work around the AMD one. Now it is worse, not better!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Attempting a fresh install, now.

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                                1337 @scottalanmiller
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                                You guys sure have spent a considerable amount of time on this. Way more than I would or could have afforded.
                                Since you are building several, how about just putting together a second one and do clean install on that one.
                                If it works as it should, it's not software.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @1337
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                                  @pete-s said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                                  You guys sure have spent a considerable amount of time on this. Way more than I would or could have afforded.
                                  Since you are building several, how about just putting together a second one and do clean install on that one.
                                  If it works as it should, it's not software.

                                  Second one is on its way. Unfortunately this one is causing tremendous organizational disruption and not working on it is not an option.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings
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                                    Seems like nvidia card + fresh Windows install stabilized things. Time will tell.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                                      @eddiejennings said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                                      Seems like nvidia card + fresh Windows install stabilized things. Time will tell.

                                      I wonder if the NVidia card is needed. A clone of this machine will be there any day, we can try the same install with that.

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Sudden blackouts Windows 101803:

                                        Seems like nvidia card + fresh Windows install stabilized things. Time will tell.

                                        I wonder if the NVidia card is needed. A clone of this machine will be there any day, we can try the same install with that.

                                        My hunch says "yes," because a fresh install of Windows before it was there was a BSOD party -- granted it's not an apples :: apples comparison, since the original install media wasn't 1803. The incoming clone will be revealing. 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Machine was replaced. Looking into how to test the old one further. Might start that tonight.

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