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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @StorageNinja
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      @storageninja said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

      Assuming he hasn't patched it in a while...

      http://[RouterIP]/cgi-bin/;REBOOT

      Hahahahahahhahahahahah

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @StorageNinja
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        @storageninja said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

        Assuming he hasn't patched it in a while...

        http://[RouterIP]/cgi-bin/;REBOOT

        That was awesome!

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          krisleslie
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          The cost of one ubiquiti router is faster and more secure than any home use router. It's also cheaper. If you wanted to pony up and pay for a crappy router for gaming you can pony up and pay for a proper router. I mean that's the whole point of UBNT. Low cost, enterprise grade equipment. Personally since they are tiny, I'd get the USG since performance isn't an issue and neither was their routing lol.

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            krisleslie @StorageNinja
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            @storageninja DUDE you were thinking exactly what I was!

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @krisleslie
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              @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

              I'd get the USG

              Never.

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                StorageNinja Vendor @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                I'd get the USG

                Never.

                Only issue I've seen is the same thing you'll see on any router/firwall. Turn on all the features and line rate drops. If it drops below what your line can handle it gets annoying.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @StorageNinja
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                  @storageninja said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                  @jaredbusch said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                  @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                  I'd get the USG

                  Never.

                  Only issue I've seen is the same thing you'll see on any router/firwall. Turn on all the features and line rate drops. If it drops below what your line can handle it gets annoying.

                  I just severely dislike the USG in general. The EdgeOS line are great as long as you understand their specs and limitations. The USG is just an ERL with UniFi firmware.

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                    krisleslie @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                    is just an ERL with UniFi firm

                    Right, but it's just 10 people. The minute something becomes advanced I'd move to an ER-4 or ER-6.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                      @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                      @jaredbusch said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                      is just an ERL with UniFi firm

                      Right, but it's just 10 people. The minute something becomes advanced I'd move to an ER-4 or ER-6.

                      But even if not advanced, why the USG?

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                        krisleslie @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller just to match with the Unifi gear 🙂

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                          krisleslie
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                          I think what they should do is nix the Unfi line and merge it and allow you to choose colors 🙂 but then other people wouldn't like that. Unifi is pretty cheap and works fine. USG I know has been the scorn for a lot of folks, but it does work for the most part 🙂

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                            @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                            Unifi is pretty cheap and works fine. USG I know has been the scorn for a lot of folks, but it does work for the most part 🙂

                            No, it's not cheap and doesn't work fine. It's double the cost and extra effort. Exactly bad for the exact group it's "in theory" supposed to be good for. It doesn't "work fine" because being cost effective is a key part of that definition. It costs too much.

                            Instead of coming up with why it is "not so bad", why is it "good" in any way? What's the driving factor pushing you to double the cost versus the EdgeRouter line?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                              @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                              @scottalanmiller just to match with the Unifi gear 🙂

                              But... how is that really useful?

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                                krisleslie
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                                @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                                USG

                                But Scott a USG cost 100 bucks. That's gotta be cheaper than that Night Hawk!

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                                  krisleslie
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                                  You know I'd personally only do ER 🙂 but for this guy with the night hawk 😛 a USG is nothing short of an improvement but if the owner was being serious about his business then yea I'd stick with ER-4 or 6

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                                    @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                                    @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                                    USG

                                    But Scott a USG cost 100 bucks. That's gotta be cheaper than that Night Hawk!

                                    That's a false comparison. The competitor is the ERX for $45.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                                      @krisleslie said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                                      You know I'd personally only do ER 🙂 but for this guy with the night hawk 😛 a USG is nothing short of an improvement but if the owner was being serious about his business then yea I'd stick with ER-4 or 6

                                      That something is an improvement is never an okay guide. The goal is to make a good decision for them, not a bad decision that is better than an even worse decision made previously.

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                                        krisleslie @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller Good point

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Example:

                                          Current Decision: Lose Lots of Money!

                                          Good Decision: Make Lots of Money!

                                          Bad Decision: Lose Less Money than Before

                                          Using bad decisions to justify more bad decisions is fundamentally flawed logic. You can make any arbitrarily terrible comparison to make any bad decision seem plausible.

                                          For example, use the Cisco ASA for $5,000 as a comparison. Suddenly the Nighthawk seems brilliant. If we allow the bar to be shifted arbitrarily, we can justify anything.

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                                            krisleslie @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

                                            mple, use the Cisco ASA for $5,000 as a comparison. Suddenly the Nighthawk seems brilliant. If we allow the bar to be shifted arbitrarily, we can justify anything.

                                            That actually makes a lot of sense.

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