@gjacobse I'm setting one up in our lab today and as a basic SMB router with VPN capabilities its OK. Compared to an ER-L I'd probably stick with the EdgeRouter.

@scottalanmiller said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:

@Pete-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:

I don't know if that is the case with Ubiquiti but some products in their line sure looks like it.
Looking at the number of employees working at Ubiquiti versus their revenue, also suggests that (most?) of their products are not designed in-house. That's just speculation of course.

Well the Edge line, and this is me guessing, is likely third party hardware that they buy (that's pretty easy) and they basically use an open source OS barely modified. They were half public about that when they started, so it kinda made sense with that line. No idea if they continued that with Unifi and others.

Well, they started with RF-based products so they have that expertise in-house.

It would make sense that their wifi products are developed by themselves and manufactured by OEMs while the rest are ODM products.

That's the quickest way to expand the product range. Otherwise you need a ton of employees. From the info online they're only about 1000 employees worldwide.

@krzykat This wouldn't have been that. Was just worth getting an RMA and starting fresh.

@bnrstnr said in Router / AP / Switch for business:

ES-24-LITE

That's right...

@kelly said in Routers Vs. Firewall:

You went pretty fast up the hyperbole chain there @scottalanmiller. I don't think this discussion is helpful to continue with the ways you're choosing to discuss things.

It's not hyperbole, it's just common sense. You can't say a firewall isn't a firewall because you don't feel it does enough firewalling compared to routing. That's just silly.

Anything that you use to show why that's silly, will sound ridiculous, but it's a silly thing to have to explain. It's clearly not a viable way to name things.

A router is a router, no matter how much firewalling it does. It's status as a router is absolutely based on if it routes, not "if it does other things in some quantity."

Hyperbole would only apply if the silly examples were to some degree sillier than the original language. But they are not. The "I'm a man and I'm 42" is identical in every way to "it's a router and it is a firewall." Not in the slightest way exaggerated.