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    • thwrT
      thwr @DustinB3403
      last edited by thwr

      @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

      @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

      @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

      Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

      Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

      I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

      You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

      Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

      Yeah, that's what I thought: Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @thwr
        last edited by

        @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

        @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

        @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

        @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

        Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

        Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

        I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

        You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

        Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

        Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

        Yes.

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        • thwrT
          thwr @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

          @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

          @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

          @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

          @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

          Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

          Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

          I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

          You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

          Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

          Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

          Yes.

          I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @thwr
            last edited by

            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

            @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

            @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

            @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

            Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

            Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

            I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

            You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

            Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

            Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

            Yes.

            I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

            Cable Jockies are cheap here in my part of the world.

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            • thwrT
              thwr @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

              @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

              @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

              @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

              @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

              @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

              @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

              Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

              Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

              I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

              You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

              Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

              Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

              Yes.

              I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

              Cable Jockies are cheap here in my part of the world.

              Same here. Costs you just a kidney or two.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @thwr
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @thwr You want this, or possibly a vented one with filters.
                https://www.rackmountsolutions.net/hammond-en4dh162415lg/
                0_1516305122375_329b9805-ea6c-4581-9af7-d00940ec2335-image.png

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                  @thwr You want this.
                  https://www.rackmountsolutions.net/hammond-en4dh162415lg/
                  0_1516305122375_329b9805-ea6c-4581-9af7-d00940ec2335-image.png

                  Jup, what I thought

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @thwr
                    last edited by

                    @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @JaredBusch
                      last edited by thwr

                      @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                      @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

                      Definitely. We got all kind of possible dangers there. Everything on a very high safety level, even for German standards. But we're working with mineral oil and misc. fluids, there's wood and metal swarfs and so on.

                      So a filter is not even a question

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @thwr
                        last edited by

                        @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                        @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                        @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

                        Definitely. We got all kind of possible dangers there. Everything on a very high safety level, even for German standards. But we're working with mineral oil and misc. fluids, there's wood and metal swarfs and so on.

                        So a filter is not even a question

                        oh yeah, I would go NEMA no fan and filter. if it over heats and melts, jsut replace.

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                          @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                          @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                          @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

                          Definitely. We got all kind of possible dangers there. Everything on a very high safety level, even for German standards. But we're working with mineral oil and misc. fluids, there's wood and metal swarfs and so on.

                          So a filter is not even a question

                          oh yeah, I would go NEMA no fan and filter. if it over heats and melts, jsut replace.

                          good point, thank you

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
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                            You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

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                            • PenguinWranglerP
                              PenguinWrangler
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                              At a huge hog farm that I service. I used the Ubiquiti ToughSwitches. They stand up to the heat and the cold with no issues. I have them in hermetically sealed boxes. No air or water can get in, just the nature of the business, with all the ammonia from the poo and urine if left out the switches would corrode, and then they bring in water pressure jets to clean out the pig areas on a regular basis. I haven't had any fail in the three years they have been in.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @thwr
                                  last edited by

                                  @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                  You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                  That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

                                  Looks like the ES Lite is only in the 24 and 48 port variety..
                                  https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/

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                                  • thwrT
                                    thwr @PenguinWrangler
                                    last edited by

                                    @penguinwrangler said in Network in industrial environments:

                                    At a huge hog farm that I service. I used the Ubiquiti ToughSwitches. They stand up to the heat and the cold with no issues. I have them in hermetically sealed boxes. No air or water can get in, just the nature of the business, with all the ammonia from the poo and urine if left out the switches would corrode, and then they bring in water pressure jets to clean out the pig areas on a regular basis. I haven't had any fail in the three years they have been in.

                                    Now that's what I would call a harsh environment 😉 Thank you, I've already had a quick look on them.

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                                    • PenguinWranglerP
                                      PenguinWrangler @thwr
                                      last edited by

                                      @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Network in industrial environments:

                                      At a huge hog farm that I service. I used the Ubiquiti ToughSwitches. They stand up to the heat and the cold with no issues. I have them in hermetically sealed boxes. No air or water can get in, just the nature of the business, with all the ammonia from the poo and urine if left out the switches would corrode, and then they bring in water pressure jets to clean out the pig areas on a regular basis. I haven't had any fail in the three years they have been in.

                                      Now that's what I would call a harsh environment 😉 Thank you, I've already had a quick look on them.

                                      They will do POE as well.

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                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by thwr

                                        @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                        @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                        You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                        That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

                                        Looks like the ES Lite is only in the 24 and 48 port variety..
                                        https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/

                                        I already have a bunch of ES-48-LITE in production. Great switches for the money.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @thwr
                                          last edited by

                                          @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                          @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                          You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                          That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

                                          Looks like the ES Lite is only in the 24 and 48 port variety..
                                          https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/

                                          I've already have a bunch of ES-48-LITE in production. Great switches for the money.

                                          The ES8 nd ES12 with PoE may work. if you turn all the PoE off onthe ports, I bet it run cooler.

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                                          • thwrT
                                            thwr @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                            That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

                                            Looks like the ES Lite is only in the 24 and 48 port variety..
                                            https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/

                                            I've already have a bunch of ES-48-LITE in production. Great switches for the money.

                                            The ES8 nd ES12 with PoE may work. if you turn all the PoE off onthe ports, I bet it run cooler.

                                            I've just ordered an ES-8, will check that. ES12? Do you mean the 12F?

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