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      john11smith @marcinozga
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      @marcinozga
      Editing css is not the best practice, because if the theme gets updated all adjustments will be gone and will not work on another theme. I did pages from scratch using only html, php and css code without any themes, templates or pictures. But it is kind of inventing wheel.

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        john11smith @IRJ
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        @irj
        Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

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          marcinozga
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          @john11smith said in New web site:

          @marcinozga
          Editing css is not the best practice, because if the theme gets updated all adjustments will be gone and will not work on another theme. I did pages from scratch using only html, php and css code without any themes, templates or pictures. But it is kind of inventing wheel.

          What? Since when editing css is not the best practice? You have a lot to learn about web design mate. Any decent theme will allow you to include custom css styles, or should allow you to create sub-theme. If you cannot do that, you're doing things completely wrong. I wish people stopped using Wordpress for serious websites, because they usually end up where you are.

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          • hobbit666H
            hobbit666
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            That template is really bad. time to rethink!

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              stacksofplates @john11smith
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              @john11smith said in New web site:

              @irj
              Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

              Open source doesn’t mean free. And $59 is not much for a custom theme.

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                stacksofplates @marcinozga
                last edited by stacksofplates

                @marcinozga said in New web site:

                @john11smith said in New web site:

                @marcinozga
                Editing css is not the best practice, because if the theme gets updated all adjustments will be gone and will not work on another theme. I did pages from scratch using only html, php and css code without any themes, templates or pictures. But it is kind of inventing wheel.

                What? Since when editing css is not the best practice? You have a lot to learn about web design mate. Any decent theme will allow you to include custom css styles, or should allow you to create sub-theme. If you cannot do that, you're doing things completely wrong. I wish people stopped using Wordpress for serious websites, because they usually end up where you are.

                Right. Any customization you do should be a sub theme. That way any updates are automatically pulled in from the main theme.

                For example the Zurb Foundation “theme” for Drupal (what I’ve mostly used) is fairly minimal and just a framework. Then you build sub themes with all of your customizations.

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                  john11smith @marcinozga
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                  @marcinozga
                  What you see it is actually child theme.
                  28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

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                    marcinozga @john11smith
                    last edited by marcinozga

                    @john11smith said in New web site:

                    @marcinozga
                    What you see it is actually child theme.
                    28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                    Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                    Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

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                      stacksofplates @marcinozga
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                      @marcinozga said in New web site:

                      @john11smith said in New web site:

                      @marcinozga
                      What you see it is actually child theme.
                      28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                      Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                      Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

                      I love Drupal for this. It’s the most flexible CMF I’ve seen. Here’s a list of F500s that use it. And I know a few cities that use it for their frameworks.

                      http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4351/list-of-fortune-500-companies-using-drupal-for-their-websites

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                        marcinozga @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                        @marcinozga said in New web site:

                        @john11smith said in New web site:

                        @marcinozga
                        What you see it is actually child theme.
                        28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                        Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                        Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

                        I love Drupal for this. It’s the most flexible CMF I’ve seen. Here’s a list of F500s that use it. And I know a few cities that use it for their frameworks.

                        http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4351/list-of-fortune-500-companies-using-drupal-for-their-websites

                        Add huge majority of .gov websites at any level, and majority of universities. And I almost forgot NASA, Tesla or Space-X.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @marcinozga
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                          @marcinozga said in New web site:

                          @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                          @marcinozga said in New web site:

                          @john11smith said in New web site:

                          @marcinozga
                          What you see it is actually child theme.
                          28.7% of web sites are based on WordPress CMS

                          Right. How many of those are top websites? None. Perez Hilton or similar was the Wordpress site with highest amount of traffic. Go figure.

                          Just because something is used by masses, it doesn't make it a good choice. It is used by so many, because it doesn't require any expertise to get started.

                          I love Drupal for this. It’s the most flexible CMF I’ve seen. Here’s a list of F500s that use it. And I know a few cities that use it for their frameworks.

                          http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4351/list-of-fortune-500-companies-using-drupal-for-their-websites

                          Add huge majority of .gov websites at any level, and majority of universities. And I almost forgot NASA, Tesla or Space-X.

                          Ya the Whitehouse site is built with it. It's just an amazing tool.

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                            marcinozga
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                            Here: https://wordpress.org/themes/materialize/

                            Free, clean, professional, responsive theme, that allows you to have custom css styles, and you can edit it through admin interface. You don't even need to create child theme for it.

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                              IRJ @john11smith
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                              @john11smith said in New web site:

                              @irj
                              Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                              Right, but if you want a professional looking website and you aren't a CSS and HTML expert you don't have much choice..

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                                IRJ @stacksofplates
                                last edited by IRJ

                                @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                                @john11smith said in New web site:

                                @irj
                                Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                                Open source doesn’t mean free. And $59 is not much for a custom theme.

                                I have found that paying the money for a well thought out and supported them is well worth the upfront cost.

                                Having trouble adjusting something CSS? Just open a ticket

                                Having trouble with anything in the theme in general? Just open a ticket.

                                The support in itself is worth it IMO, but the quality of the theme is much better. When you consider the amount of downloads and how many users they are constantly supporting.

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @john11smith
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                                  @john11smith said in New web site:

                                  Hi, I have established a new company and about to start looking for customers. Here is my website: https://nioss.co.uk/. Would appreciate a little criticism.

                                  Checkout sites.envato.com I think its $4/month now. Really simple, looks decent, responsive. I made one before when they were beta took about 10 minutes.

                                  Will get you something nice until you can get someone to do a WP site for you like hostadillo...

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                                    IRJ @bigbear
                                    last edited by

                                    @bigbear said in New web site:

                                    @john11smith said in New web site:

                                    Hi, I have established a new company and about to start looking for customers. Here is my website: https://nioss.co.uk/. Would appreciate a little criticism.

                                    Checkout sites.envato.com I think its $4/month now. Really simple, looks decent, responsive. I made one before when they were beta took about 10 minutes.

                                    Will get you something nice until you can get someone to do a WP site for you like hostadillo...

                                    Cool. I have never heard of that before, but I do love envato. I would guess that some of their themes are used on theses sites?

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                                      stacksofplates @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @irj said in New web site:

                                      @stacksofplates said in New web site:

                                      @john11smith said in New web site:

                                      @irj
                                      Its not free and goes against whole idea of open source and free.

                                      Open source doesn’t mean free. And $59 is not much for a custom theme.

                                      I have found that paying the money for a well thought out and supported them is well worth the upfront cost.

                                      Having trouble adjusting something CSS? Just open a ticket

                                      Having trouble with anything in the theme in general? Just open a ticket.

                                      The support in itself is worth it IMO, but the quality of the theme is much better. When you consider the amount of downloads and how many users they are constantly supporting.

                                      Ya the one thing to watch out for is (at least on Drupal) some of the themes enable the PHP plugin and a lot of the code is direct PHP in the content. Other than that most of the ones I’ve seen for plug and play are much much better than the free ones.

                                      Building custom themes is time consuming. Not hard just takes a lot of work. You definitely pay more in time than you would buying one of these.

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                                      • bigbearB
                                        bigbear @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @irj said in New web site:

                                        @bigbear said in New web site:

                                        @john11smith said in New web site:

                                        Hi, I have established a new company and about to start looking for customers. Here is my website: https://nioss.co.uk/. Would appreciate a little criticism.

                                        Checkout sites.envato.com I think its $4/month now. Really simple, looks decent, responsive. I made one before when they were beta took about 10 minutes.

                                        Will get you something nice until you can get someone to do a WP site for you like hostadillo...

                                        Cool. I have never heard of that before, but I do love envato. I would guess that some of their themes are used on theses sites?

                                        I tried it out in beta and a little since then. They include the themes that they made for the service.

                                        It seems to be getting better every month, is definitely the easiest thing I have ever used for a simple site. I am usually a wordpress guy.

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                                          john11smith @marcinozga
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                                          @marcinozga

                                          Feel like have ruined whole idea with Andromeda cloud picture, because it does not fit now. But will figure something else, if the site looks better now?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            I feel like you are working hard to make some sort of weird blog instead of a normal website. I guess I'm confused as to what the intended result is supposed to be.

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