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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
      last edited by

      @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

      What about installing it on Vultr?

      That's perfect IF you want to share it between locations. Locally hosted is better if you want better DNS performance.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
        last edited by

        @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

        @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

        @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

        What about installing it on Vultr?

        You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

        Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

        Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

          @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

          @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

          @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

          What about installing it on Vultr?

          You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

          Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

          Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

          If it lasts 3 years. Typically, power failure will cause the SD card to corrupt. Then, you'd have to reinvest into another SD card and start all over.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
            last edited by

            @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

            @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

            @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

            @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

            @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

            What about installing it on Vultr?

            You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

            Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

            Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

            If it lasts 3 years. Typically, power failure will cause the SD card to corrupt. Then, you'd have to reinvest into another SD card and start all over.

            And with the time/value of money, it makes the Vultr approach better and better, unless you already have a place on your network where you can easily run the Pi Hole. Running dedicated RPs rarely makes sense as they are too low powered and costly compared to a tiny VM on Vultr or similar. An RP doesn't really have any more power than a tiny Vultr VM. And Vultr VMs are growing in capacity faster than RPs are version to version.

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            • NerdyDadN
              NerdyDad @NerdyDad
              last edited by

              @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

              @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

              @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

              @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

              @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

              What about installing it on Vultr?

              You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

              Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

              Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

              If it lasts 3 years. Typically, power failure will cause the SD card to corrupt. Then, you'd have to reinvest into another SD card and start all over.

              I mean, its not hard to install Raspbian, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then curl Pi Hole. Could have another setup in an hour after failure.

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

                @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

                What about installing it on Vultr?

                You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

                Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

                Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

                If it lasts 3 years. Typically, power failure will cause the SD card to corrupt. Then, you'd have to reinvest into another SD card and start all over.

                And with the time/value of money, it makes the Vultr approach better and better, unless you already have a place on your network where you can easily run the Pi Hole. Running dedicated RPs rarely makes sense as they are too low powered and costly compared to a tiny VM on Vultr or similar. An RP doesn't really have any more power than a tiny Vultr VM. And Vultr VMs are growing in capacity faster than RPs are version to version.

                They're also more capable because more applications are designed for x86_64-bit procs instead of the RPi's ARM procs. If you're doing something with an RPi, then you probably have intentions of using the GPIO pins instead of anything more software-based that would be better suited for a VM, either on a local laptop, a home lab, or Vultr.

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                  marcinozga @NerdyDad
                  last edited by

                  @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                  @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                  @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                  @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

                  @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

                  What about installing it on Vultr?

                  You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

                  Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

                  Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

                  If it lasts 3 years. Typically, power failure will cause the SD card to corrupt. Then, you'd have to reinvest into another SD card and start all over.

                  I mean, its not hard to install Raspbian, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then curl Pi Hole. Could have another setup in an hour after failure.

                  With containers and ansible, I had mine ready in probably less than 3 minutes. You can probably do it by hand just as fast.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                    @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                    @nerdydad said in Pi Hole:

                    @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

                    @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

                    What about installing it on Vultr?

                    You can install it on any supported Linux system, mine runs in Centos 7 LXD container. It's how you set it up as DNS proxy/server. Although local DNS is always preferred, once your queries are cached, latency is much lower than querying cloud instance.

                    Plus, the Raspberry Pi will pay for itself within a year of Vultr use.

                    Not realistically. Figure $60 for a working RP setup minimum, not including space, heat or power draw (all small, but non-zero.) Vultr would be $30. It would take two years to break even, three years to RP cost savings minimum.

                    If it lasts 3 years. Typically, power failure will cause the SD card to corrupt. Then, you'd have to reinvest into another SD card and start all over.

                    And with the time/value of money, it makes the Vultr approach better and better, unless you already have a place on your network where you can easily run the Pi Hole. Running dedicated RPs rarely makes sense as they are too low powered and costly compared to a tiny VM on Vultr or similar. An RP doesn't really have any more power than a tiny Vultr VM. And Vultr VMs are growing in capacity faster than RPs are version to version.

                    They're also more capable because more applications are designed for x86_64-bit procs instead of the RPi's ARM procs. If you're doing something with an RPi, then you probably have intentions of using the GPIO pins instead of anything more software-based that would be better suited for a VM, either on a local laptop, a home lab, or Vultr.

                    Anything with a script based language is architecture agnostic. One of the many benefits of Python.

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                      Alex Sage
                      last edited by

                      Pi hole OpenVPN server
                      https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/wiki/Pi-hole---OpenVPN-server

                      🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Anyone try on Fedora? Installer did not work here.

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                          Anyone try on Fedora? Installer did not work here.

                          Mine was always on Raspbian.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            On Fedora there were errors on exit, but it said that it finished. And SELinux is not supported, but you can turn that off or whatever. But it never seemed to configure anything. Testing Ubuntu now.

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                              marcinozga
                              last edited by

                              It fails on setting static IPv4 address in Fedora.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @marcinozga
                                last edited by

                                @marcinozga said in Pi Hole:

                                It fails on setting static IPv4 address in Fedora.

                                It doesn't even go through as much of the script.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  It "just worked" on Ubuntu.

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                                  • NashBrydgesN
                                    NashBrydges @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                                    It "just worked" on Ubuntu.

                                    That's what I have it installed on and it was a breeze.

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                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by Alex Sage

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                                      It "just worked" on Ubuntu.

                                      No luck with CentOS 7 on Vultr.

                                      Debian 9 on Vultr worked perfectly.

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                                      • CloudKnightC
                                        CloudKnight
                                        last edited by

                                        what a name....hahaha...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                          last edited by

                                          @aaronstuder said in Pi Hole:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Pi Hole:

                                          It "just worked" on Ubuntu.

                                          No luck with CentOS 7 on Vultr.

                                          Debian 9 on Vultr worked perfectly.

                                          I think that they are a bit ambitious on their list of OSes that work with that script 😉

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm on Vultr as well.

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