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    • coliverC
      coliver @travisdh1
      last edited by

      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

      @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

      I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

      Double check those...

      md2, RAID1, speed=54044
      md1, RAID1, speed=1213
      md0, RAID10, speed=761

      The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

      md0,speed=76109K/sec
      md1,speed=12136K/sec
      md2,speed=54044K/sec.

      So md1 is the slowest and md0 is the fastest.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 Maybe I'm reading it wrong from the size of the screengrab,

        But I read md0 as 76109K/sec and md1 as 12136K/sec and md2 as 54044K/sec

        Clearly md0 is faster.

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        • thwrT
          thwr @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

          @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

          I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

          Double check those...

          md2, RAID1, speed=54044
          md1, RAID1, speed=1213
          md0, RAID10, speed=761

          The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

          DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @thwr
            last edited by

            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

            I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

            Double check those...

            md2, RAID1, speed=54044
            md1, RAID1, speed=1213
            md0, RAID10, speed=761

            The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

            DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

            I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split 😞

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            • thwrT
              thwr @travisdh1
              last edited by

              @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

              I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

              exactly. It is:

              md2, RAID1, speed=54044
              md1, RAID1, speed=12136
              md0, RAID10, speed=76109

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              • thwrT
                thwr @thwr
                last edited by

                @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                exactly. It is:

                md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                md0, RAID10, speed=76109

                So why is your md1 this slow?

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                    but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @thwr
                      last edited by

                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                      Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                      but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                      Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                        but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                        Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                        You said you had 5400RPM drives? That would account for the slowness.

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                          but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                          Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                          Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @thwr
                            last edited by

                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                            but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                            Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                            Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                            The 6 disk RAID 10 should be 3 times faster, but I'm not sure about this. Don't know how up to date this http://wintelguy.com/raidperf2.pl is

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @thwr
                              last edited by

                              @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                              but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                              Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                              Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                              The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @travisdh1
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                                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

                                Ah ok

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    Also you've got approx 8TB of space there, correct?

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      Also you've got approx 8TB of space there, correct?

                                      Yes.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                        It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                          It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

                                          Any reason for not using ext4?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            So this looks like an MD array, is this running on XenServer?

                                            It is. Hopefully I won't have any oddness formatting these as ext3 when that completes.

                                            I was going to ask the same question that @thwr asked, along with what is the hardware set?

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