ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Internal Storage is always better.

    IT Discussion
    5
    28
    2.7k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1
      last edited by

      The story of 3 RAID arrays. Two RAID1 and one RAID 10. One internal, two DAS. No prizes for guess which one is internal.

      alt text

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

        travisdh1T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • coliverC
          coliver
          last edited by coliver

          Looks like md0 based on speed alone.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • ChrisLC
            ChrisL
            last edited by ChrisL

            We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

            thwrT 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • thwrT
              thwr @ChrisL
              last edited by

              @ChrisL said in Internal Storage is always better.:

              We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

              Your link is broken (check the lowercase L in front of http, known bug)

              ChrisLC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
              • ChrisLC
                ChrisL @thwr
                last edited by

                @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                @ChrisL said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                We just published a blog this morning on RAID arrays, fault tolerance, etc. For someone that isn't well versed in the data storage aspect, I thought it was a nice little insight into how it works.

                Your link is broken (check the lowercase L in front of http, known bug)

                FIXED. here's the link as well: http://www.colocationamerica.com/blog/what-is-raid-fault-tolerance

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                  I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                  Double check those...

                  md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                  md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                  md0, RAID10, speed=761

                  The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                  coliverC DustinB3403D thwrT 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • coliverC
                    coliver @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                    I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                    Double check those...

                    md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                    md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                    md0, RAID10, speed=761

                    The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                    md0,speed=76109K/sec
                    md1,speed=12136K/sec
                    md2,speed=54044K/sec.

                    So md1 is the slowest and md0 is the fastest.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 Maybe I'm reading it wrong from the size of the screengrab,

                      But I read md0 as 76109K/sec and md1 as 12136K/sec and md2 as 54044K/sec

                      Clearly md0 is faster.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • thwrT
                        thwr @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                        I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                        Double check those...

                        md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                        md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                        md0, RAID10, speed=761

                        The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                        DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

                        travisdh1T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @thwr
                          last edited by

                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                          I'm gonna guess the Raid 10

                          Double check those...

                          md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                          md1, RAID1, speed=1213
                          md0, RAID10, speed=761

                          The speed difference between md2 and md1 is purely internal vs DAS, and md0 is just slow drives (5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm.)

                          DAS should not have a huge impact IMHO. It's still direct attached, there are just expanders (read: ~ "USB Hubs") in between.

                          I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split 😞

                          thwrT 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • thwrT
                            thwr @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                            I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                            exactly. It is:

                            md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                            md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                            md0, RAID10, speed=76109

                            thwrT 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • thwrT
                              thwr @thwr
                              last edited by

                              @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                              I'm not reading my own screen grab right, missing the line split

                              exactly. It is:

                              md2, RAID1, speed=54044
                              md1, RAID1, speed=12136
                              md0, RAID10, speed=76109

                              So why is your md1 this slow?

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                thwrT 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • thwrT
                                  thwr @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                  Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                  but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                  travisdh1T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @thwr
                                    last edited by

                                    @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                    Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                    but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                    Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                    coliverC thwrT 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                      Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                      but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                      Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                      You said you had 5400RPM drives? That would account for the slowness.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                        Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                        but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                        Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                        Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                        thwrT travisdh1T 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @thwr
                                          last edited by

                                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                          Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                          but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                          Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                          Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                          The 6 disk RAID 10 should be 3 times faster, but I'm not sure about this. Don't know how up to date this http://wintelguy.com/raidperf2.pl is

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @thwr
                                            last edited by

                                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @thwr said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Internal Storage is always better.:

                                            Now that I'm reading things right, I'm guessing md1 and md0 are both fully utilizing the ESATA connection with 4 drives connected to each channel.

                                            but md0 is nearly 7 times faster. Just because RAID10 vs RAID1? I would understand if the RAID10 is twice as fast, but 7 times is a bit much.

                                            Well, that is 6 drives compared to only 2... still, 7 times as fast is odd.

                                            Oh, i thought its 4 vs 4. Wait a sec

                                            The expanders are 4 drives each, and the RAID 10 is 6 drives of one of the two channels and the RAID1 is two drives on one.

                                            thwrT 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 1 / 2
                                            • First post
                                              Last post