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    Xenserver 6.5 Thin Provisioning Issue

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    • coliverC
      coliver @Lakshmana
      last edited by coliver

      @Lakshmana It is completely different then how VMWare and Hyper-V do it on their GUI, although the process is basically the same. Kind of takes the guess work out of the process since you no longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or not.

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      • ?
        A Former User
        last edited by

        XenServer it's all or none. Vmware or Hyper-V it's on a per VM Virtual Disk level. Rarely is there a case not to use thin provisioning.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          And the benefits of mixing the two on the same storage device, which do exist, are much lower than having the whole thing be thin.

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          • LakshmanaL
            Lakshmana @coliver
            last edited by Lakshmana

            @coliver said:

            o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

            One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
              last edited by

              @Lakshmana said:

              @coliver said:

              o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

              One why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

              It's not provided anymore. Once you select it at install time, you don't need to select it again.

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              • ?
                A Former User @Lakshmana
                last edited by A Former User

                @Lakshmana It only uses space that is really used. It does not use the whole space you assign it. It's another way of over committing resources which that's the major uses of Virtualization.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Lakshmana
                  last edited by

                  @Lakshmana said:

                  @coliver said:

                  o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                  One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                  You don't have to worry about it now. No need to doubt the software, it is by default thin provisioned now that you've enabled it during installation.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @Lakshmana said:

                    @coliver said:

                    o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                    One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                    You don't have to worry about it now. No need to doubt the software, it is by default thin provisioned now that you've enabled it during installation.

                    Exactly, you have already chosen thin provisioning. You do not see the option again because you have already chosen it. So all is well.

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                    • LakshmanaL
                      Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller
                      How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                        last edited by

                        @Lakshmana said:

                        @scottalanmiller
                        How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

                        You said that you did it. Are you doubting your memory?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Lakshmana
                          last edited by

                          @Lakshmana said:

                          @scottalanmiller
                          How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

                          One of the ways you can do it (although it may be restricted on XenServer) is to create a virtual hard disk bigger then the space available. If it allows you to then you have thin provisioning enabled... if it fails then you don't. Of course this could cause a string of other, more serious issues.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            What does this command show?

                            xe vbd-list

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                            • LakshmanaL
                              Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              ows you to then you have thin provisioning enabled... if it fails then you don't. Of course this could cause a string of other, more serious issues.

                              [root@xenserver3 ~]# xe vbd-list
                              uuid ( RO) : 03e3e447-be1c-826b-1f36-0fcd4548fd3b
                              vm-uuid ( RO): 9e6f55b3-dad4-27f6-1be6-7039f6c70bef
                              vm-name-label ( RO): Other install media (1)
                              vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                              empty ( RO): false
                              device ( RO): xvdd

                              uuid ( RO) : 56e0ecfd-d8ba-140a-1ca5-e665edc6a2e9
                              vm-uuid ( RO): 4de3a235-9339-e37d-8000-6754ccc1c02d
                              vm-name-label ( RO): Windows 7 (32-bit) (2)
                              vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                              empty ( RO): false
                              device ( RO):

                              uuid ( RO) : 51198e3f-edbe-18d2-ec80-1b7ca33744b3
                              vm-uuid ( RO): a8c3d7fe-2179-4eab-e609-8c80cfe60096
                              vm-name-label ( RO): Windows 7 (32-bit) (1)
                              vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                              empty ( RO): false
                              device ( RO): xvdd

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Shoot, I thought that that would say explicitly that they were thin provisioned.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  This is not something the XS has well documented. They mostly expect you to just remember.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    What about this xe sr-list

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                                    • LakshmanaL
                                      Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      e XS has well documented. They mostly expect you to just remember.

                                      In my client the person does not know about thin provisioning.Then how he will find now.I also working towards it now?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                        last edited by

                                        @Lakshmana said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        e XS has well documented. They mostly expect you to just remember.

                                        In my client the person does not know about thin provisioning.Then how he will find now.I also working towards it now?

                                        This is an IT thing and not something that a client should know anything about. If the client doesn't know how to check, why does he care? Something is wrong that you are in this situation. It's like "how does the customer know that the engine as 24 valves". If the customer doesn't know how to check, then they don't need to care. If they know how to check, they don't need to ask you. You can answer that it was installed with thin provisioning and that is how Citrix tells you. Citrix does not provide a way to know, so he is asking for something you cannot provide. This is his problem.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          If he insists, tell him to check with Citrix how to do this. He is not paying for support and Citrix does not document how to verify this.

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