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    Xenserver 6.5 Thin Provisioning Issue

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    • LakshmanaL
      Lakshmana
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      Today I have installed the Xenserver 6.5 at HP Proliant DL160G5 server.I have enabled the thin provisioning while installing OS.But I have installed Xencenter in my VM machine there is no thin provision option is shown.Why?How to enable thin provision?

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        If I recall correctly, and I may not, thin provisioning is a bit different in XenServer. Basically it thin provisions the storage array instead of the VM files. You create the size VM Disk that you want and it will only use the actual storage on the backend.

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        • LakshmanaL
          Lakshmana @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver It seems to be like that only when i have used that

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            If I recall correctly, and I may not, thin provisioning is a bit different in XenServer. Basically it thin provisions the storage array instead of the VM files. You create the size VM Disk that you want and it will only use the actual storage on the backend.

            Yes, I believe that that is correct. You've already thin provisioned everything. Otherwise you would not select thin provisioning at install time but instead when you deploy the individual VM. It doesn't make any sense to have to select it twice, what would the first time imply, if that were the case?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Lakshmana
              last edited by coliver

              @Lakshmana It is completely different then how VMWare and Hyper-V do it on their GUI, although the process is basically the same. Kind of takes the guess work out of the process since you no longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or not.

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              • ?
                A Former User
                last edited by

                XenServer it's all or none. Vmware or Hyper-V it's on a per VM Virtual Disk level. Rarely is there a case not to use thin provisioning.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  And the benefits of mixing the two on the same storage device, which do exist, are much lower than having the whole thing be thin.

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                  • LakshmanaL
                    Lakshmana @coliver
                    last edited by Lakshmana

                    @coliver said:

                    o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                    One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                      last edited by

                      @Lakshmana said:

                      @coliver said:

                      o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                      One why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                      It's not provided anymore. Once you select it at install time, you don't need to select it again.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @Lakshmana
                        last edited by A Former User

                        @Lakshmana It only uses space that is really used. It does not use the whole space you assign it. It's another way of over committing resources which that's the major uses of Virtualization.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Lakshmana
                          last edited by

                          @Lakshmana said:

                          @coliver said:

                          o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                          One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                          You don't have to worry about it now. No need to doubt the software, it is by default thin provisioned now that you've enabled it during installation.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @Lakshmana said:

                            @coliver said:

                            o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                            One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                            You don't have to worry about it now. No need to doubt the software, it is by default thin provisioned now that you've enabled it during installation.

                            Exactly, you have already chosen thin provisioning. You do not see the option again because you have already chosen it. So all is well.

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                            • LakshmanaL
                              Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller
                              How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                last edited by

                                @Lakshmana said:

                                @scottalanmiller
                                How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

                                You said that you did it. Are you doubting your memory?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Lakshmana
                                  last edited by

                                  @Lakshmana said:

                                  @scottalanmiller
                                  How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

                                  One of the ways you can do it (although it may be restricted on XenServer) is to create a virtual hard disk bigger then the space available. If it allows you to then you have thin provisioning enabled... if it fails then you don't. Of course this could cause a string of other, more serious issues.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    What does this command show?

                                    xe vbd-list

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                                    • LakshmanaL
                                      Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said:

                                      ows you to then you have thin provisioning enabled... if it fails then you don't. Of course this could cause a string of other, more serious issues.

                                      [root@xenserver3 ~]# xe vbd-list
                                      uuid ( RO) : 03e3e447-be1c-826b-1f36-0fcd4548fd3b
                                      vm-uuid ( RO): 9e6f55b3-dad4-27f6-1be6-7039f6c70bef
                                      vm-name-label ( RO): Other install media (1)
                                      vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                                      empty ( RO): false
                                      device ( RO): xvdd

                                      uuid ( RO) : 56e0ecfd-d8ba-140a-1ca5-e665edc6a2e9
                                      vm-uuid ( RO): 4de3a235-9339-e37d-8000-6754ccc1c02d
                                      vm-name-label ( RO): Windows 7 (32-bit) (2)
                                      vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                                      empty ( RO): false
                                      device ( RO):

                                      uuid ( RO) : 51198e3f-edbe-18d2-ec80-1b7ca33744b3
                                      vm-uuid ( RO): a8c3d7fe-2179-4eab-e609-8c80cfe60096
                                      vm-name-label ( RO): Windows 7 (32-bit) (1)
                                      vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                                      empty ( RO): false
                                      device ( RO): xvdd

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Shoot, I thought that that would say explicitly that they were thin provisioned.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          This is not something the XS has well documented. They mostly expect you to just remember.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            What about this xe sr-list

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