What Are You Doing Right Now
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?
Correct.
So let me see if I got this right...
Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?
Computer > patch panel > firewall
With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?
Pretty much. Although VoIP is having some latency issues when calling out, internally it is working as expected, except for one user. Externally audio can be a bit choppy.
Every machine I've tested this with seems to have the same issue with latency when talking to the firewall, although not so much any other device on the network.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Because FiOS routers are crap, despite they are supposed to be great.
Mine in Texas worked fine. I replaced it for security reasons, but not because it wasn't fast.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
Because FiOS routers are crap, despite they are supposed to be great.
Mine in Texas worked fine. I replaced it for security reasons, but not because it wasn't fast.
Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
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@coliver said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?
Correct.
So let me see if I got this right...
Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?
Computer > patch panel > firewall
With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?
Pretty much. Although VoIP is having some latency issues when calling out, internally it is working as expected, except for one user. Externally audio can be a bit choppy.
Every machine I've tested this with seems to have the same issue with latency when talking to the firewall, although not so much any other device on the network.
Check the cabling and reboot the router. But sounds like it is likely a router issue. Maybe grab Cisco support and see if know anything.
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@Reid-Cooper said:
@coliver said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?
Correct.
So let me see if I got this right...
Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?
Computer > patch panel > firewall
With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?
Pretty much. Although VoIP is having some latency issues when calling out, internally it is working as expected, except for one user. Externally audio can be a bit choppy.
Every machine I've tested this with seems to have the same issue with latency when talking to the firewall, although not so much any other device on the network.
Check the cabling and reboot the router. But sounds like it is likely a router issue. Maybe grab Cisco support and see if know anything.
Yep, I've got a case open with Cisco/Meraki support. I wish I could see common stats on this device like memory or processor usage... can't even query it with SNMP.
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@coliver said:
Yep, I've got a case open with Cisco/Meraki support. I wish I could see common stats on this device like memory or processor usage... can't even query it with SNMP.
That's awful.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
Torrents
Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
Torrents
Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?
Torrents will quickly saturate a connection if you aren't limiting them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
It's not how much bandwidth you pull. Several Netflix streams will use some bandwidth, but I'd bet you were still using under 10GB combined between up and down in a day. Multiple that more than tenfold and factor in that it's running 24/7. You might stream some Netflix, then stop and browse the web, etc. I was at your house for awhile and got a good idea of how you guys use your network. You're nowhere near how much bandwidth I consume. You probably took half a month to use what I use in a day.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
Torrents
Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?
Torrents will quickly saturate a connection if you aren't limiting them.
Not only will they saturate the link, but it can easily reach thousands of connections also. That is actually what kills most routers. The simultaneous connections.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
Torrents
Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?
When I've got several downloads going, combined with uploads, I'm using a combined over 5MB/sec of bandwidth. Granted, once my downloads finish, many times it's under 1MB/sec for most of the day, but still, the router never really gets a break. The reboot just helps "flush the system" as it were.
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
Torrents
Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?
Torrents will quickly saturate a connection if you aren't limiting them.
Not only will they saturate the link, but it can easily reach thousands of connections also. That is actually what kills most routers. The simultaneous connections.
The ones I run generally don't have more than 20 or 30 connections per torrent, and I usually don't have more than 5 or 6 torrents running simultaneously. Still, several hundred connections at any given point is not at all unlikely.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.
What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?
It's not how much bandwidth you pull. Several Netflix streams will use some bandwidth, but I'd bet you were still using under 10GB combined between up and down in a day. Multiple that more than tenfold and factor in that it's running 24/7. You might stream some Netflix, then stop and browse the web, etc. I was at your house for awhile and got a good idea of how you guys use your network. You're nowhere near how much bandwidth I consume. You probably took half a month to use what I use in a day.
We often have 2-3 HD streams all day because the kids just constantly leave it on.
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@JaredBusch said:
Not only will they saturate the link, but it can easily reach thousands of connections also. That is actually what kills most routers. The simultaneous connections.
Ah, that makes more sense. The bandwidth of Netflix HD is pretty high.
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Jitter graph for the past two hours:
Ping graph over the last two hours.
Short downtime was when I moved my cable back to the switch.
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@coliver said:
Jitter graph for the past two hours:
Ping graph over the last two hours.
Short downtime was when I moved my cable back to the switch.
Seems to me the best thing to do would be reboot the firewall and see if that fixes it.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
Jitter graph for the past two hours:
Ping graph over the last two hours.
Short downtime was when I moved my cable back to the switch.
Seems to me the best thing to do would be reboot the firewall and see if that fixes it.
I'll have to try that. Can't do it right now though.
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@coliver said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
@coliver said:
Jitter graph for the past two hours:
Ping graph over the last two hours.
Short downtime was when I moved my cable back to the switch.
Seems to me the best thing to do would be reboot the firewall and see if that fixes it.
I'll have to try that. Can't do it right now though.
Yeah, I understand. If you guys have a time when most people go to lunch, just tell everyone you're gonna bring the network down for 10 minutes and to grab some coffee and food in the meantime.
