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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @coliver said:

      @Reid-Cooper said:

      Directly attached, no switch at all?

      Directly attached and not through a switch correct, from the punchdown directly over.

      Bad cabling then? Have you tried rebooting the Meraki? Maybe its cache is overloaded or something, and is causing issues. The FiOS router where I live I reboot nightly to clear the cache. Cleared up all kinds of issues.

      That's pretty extreme. Why does a router have a cache? Other than a route cache, and how does one of those fill up post 1999?

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @thanksajdotcom said:

        @coliver said:

        @Reid-Cooper said:

        Directly attached, no switch at all?

        Directly attached and not through a switch correct, from the punchdown directly over.

        Bad cabling then? Have you tried rebooting the Meraki? Maybe its cache is overloaded or something, and is causing issues. The FiOS router where I live I reboot nightly to clear the cache. Cleared up all kinds of issues.

        That's pretty extreme. Why does a router have a cache? Other than a route cache, and how does one of those fill up post 1999?

        Because FiOS routers are crap, despite they are supposed to be great. The router pre-nightly-reboot would work fine for 2-5 days before suddenly you couldn't access the web interface, network connections started dropping, and then it basically just crashed but didn't lose power. Then you'd have to hard power it off and back on and it'd work again for another 2-5 days. Since I setup a cron job to telnet in and reboot it nightly, we haven't had a single issue. Tell me what else it could possibly be, and I'm all ears.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @thanksajdotcom
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          @thanksajdotcom said:

          @coliver said:

          @thanksajdotcom IP

          Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?

          Correct.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom
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            Besides, the router was handling somewhere between 100 and 150GB of data transmission between up and down a day. FiOS connections may be able to handle that load, but their routers seem to become overloaded after a few days. I had the same issue with my FiOS router in Texas. Once I dropped it completely and went to my own router, the issue disappeared.

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen Banned
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              IT"S FRIDAYYY!!!! Getting ready to travel again.

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                @thanksajdotcom said:

                @coliver said:

                @thanksajdotcom IP

                Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?

                Correct.

                So let me see if I got this right...

                Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?

                Computer > patch panel > firewall

                With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                  @Minion-Queen said:

                  IT"S FRIDAYYY!!!! Getting ready to travel again.

                  Me too. Gibraltar in the morning, Cádiz tomorrow night.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @thanksajdotcom
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                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @thanksajdotcom IP

                    Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?

                    Correct.

                    So let me see if I got this right...

                    Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?

                    Computer > patch panel > firewall

                    With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?

                    Pretty much. Although VoIP is having some latency issues when calling out, internally it is working as expected, except for one user. Externally audio can be a bit choppy.

                    Every machine I've tested this with seems to have the same issue with latency when talking to the firewall, although not so much any other device on the network.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                      last edited by

                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                      Because FiOS routers are crap, despite they are supposed to be great.

                      Mine in Texas worked fine. I replaced it for security reasons, but not because it wasn't fast.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                        Because FiOS routers are crap, despite they are supposed to be great.

                        Mine in Texas worked fine. I replaced it for security reasons, but not because it wasn't fast.

                        Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.

                          What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @thanksajdotcom IP

                            Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?

                            Correct.

                            So let me see if I got this right...

                            Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?

                            Computer > patch panel > firewall

                            With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?

                            Pretty much. Although VoIP is having some latency issues when calling out, internally it is working as expected, except for one user. Externally audio can be a bit choppy.

                            Every machine I've tested this with seems to have the same issue with latency when talking to the firewall, although not so much any other device on the network.

                            Check the cabling and reboot the router. But sounds like it is likely a router issue. Maybe grab Cisco support and see if know anything.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Reid Cooper
                              last edited by

                              @Reid-Cooper said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @thanksajdotcom said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @thanksajdotcom said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @thanksajdotcom IP

                              Your computer is cabled and not over wifi, correct?

                              Correct.

                              So let me see if I got this right...

                              Cabled, pinging by IP, and this is basically how it flows?

                              Computer > patch panel > firewall

                              With that setup, you're getting 2-300ms response times that are somewhat random to the firewall, but everything else works fine?

                              Pretty much. Although VoIP is having some latency issues when calling out, internally it is working as expected, except for one user. Externally audio can be a bit choppy.

                              Every machine I've tested this with seems to have the same issue with latency when talking to the firewall, although not so much any other device on the network.

                              Check the cabling and reboot the router. But sounds like it is likely a router issue. Maybe grab Cisco support and see if know anything.

                              Yep, I've got a case open with Cisco/Meraki support. I wish I could see common stats on this device like memory or processor usage... can't even query it with SNMP.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

                                Torrents

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                                • Reid CooperR
                                  Reid Cooper @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  Yep, I've got a case open with Cisco/Meraki support. I wish I could see common stats on this device like memory or processor usage... can't even query it with SNMP.

                                  That's awful.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

                                    Torrents

                                    Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

                                      Torrents

                                      Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?

                                      Torrents will quickly saturate a connection if you aren't limiting them.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                                        Yes, but I doubt you had that volume of traffic going through your router from your home network on a daily basis. Like I said, usually around 150GB per day between up and down. I've seen Verizon routers run fine for months for people who just stream Netflix, browse the web and do the basics. But high levels of intensive use, and they just crack.

                                        What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

                                        It's not how much bandwidth you pull. Several Netflix streams will use some bandwidth, but I'd bet you were still using under 10GB combined between up and down in a day. Multiple that more than tenfold and factor in that it's running 24/7. You might stream some Netflix, then stop and browse the web, etc. I was at your house for awhile and got a good idea of how you guys use your network. You're nowhere near how much bandwidth I consume. You probably took half a month to use what I use in a day.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

                                          Torrents

                                          Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?

                                          Torrents will quickly saturate a connection if you aren't limiting them.

                                          Not only will they saturate the link, but it can easily reach thousands of connections also. That is actually what kills most routers. The simultaneous connections.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @JaredBusch said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            What is more intensive than several Netflix streams at once?

                                            Torrents

                                            Does that often actually pull more than several Netflix streams?

                                            When I've got several downloads going, combined with uploads, I'm using a combined over 5MB/sec of bandwidth. Granted, once my downloads finish, many times it's under 1MB/sec for most of the day, but still, the router never really gets a break. The reboot just helps "flush the system" as it were.

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