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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @manxam
      last edited by

      @manxam said in Exchange 2013 not sending email to Junk Folder:

      What's your SCL Junk Email folder threshold set to? I believe it defaults to 4 but perhaps it's worth a look.

      Where TF do I find that setting in ECP?

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        manxam @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch : It's a powershell only setting -- or at least this is the only place I've ever set it on prem. O365 does it through EAC mail rules.

        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/spam-confidence-level-threshold-exchange-2013-help

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @manxam
          last edited by

          @manxam said in Exchange 2013 not sending email to Junk Folder:

          @JaredBusch : It's a powershell only setting -- or at least this is the only place I've ever set it on prem. O365 does it through EAC mail rules.

          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/spam-confidence-level-threshold-exchange-2013-help

          Well I never disabled this, so WTF with it not working.. signing in to test.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by JaredBusch

            Yup.. WTF, it is not enabled.

            [PS] C:\Windows\system32>Get-ContentFilterConfig

            RunspaceId                            : 13e0ee15-e9e9-4d5b-84b5-7e4be4ecbf40
            Name                                  : ContentFilterConfig
            RejectionResponse                     : Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering.
            OutlookEmailPostmarkValidationEnabled : True
            BypassedRecipients                    : {}
            QuarantineMailbox                     :
            SCLRejectThreshold                    : 7
            SCLRejectEnabled                      : True
            SCLDeleteThreshold                    : 9
            SCLDeleteEnabled                      : False
            SCLQuarantineThreshold                : 9
            SCLQuarantineEnabled                  : False
            BypassedSenders                       : {}
            BypassedSenderDomains                 : {}
            Enabled                               : False
            ExternalMailEnabled                   : True
            InternalMailEnabled                   : False
            AdminDisplayName                      :
            ExchangeVersion                       : 0.1 (8.0.535.0)
            DistinguishedName                     : CN=ContentFilterConfig,CN=Message Hygiene,CN=Transport Settings,CN=First Organization,CN=Microsoft Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=domain,DC=local
            Identity                              : ContentFilterConfig
            Guid                                  : cacf4374-c823-4fb4-9774-970f3e665d3f
            ObjectCategory                        : domain.local/Configuration/Schema/ms-Exch-Message-Hygiene-Content-Filter-Config
            ObjectClass                           : {top, msExchAgent, msExchMessageHygieneContentFilterConfig}
            WhenChanged                           : 11/02/2014 15:00:01
            WhenCreated                           : 07/23/2011 16:19:01
            WhenChangedUTC                        : 11/02/2014 21:00:01
            WhenCreatedUTC                        : 07/23/2011 21:19:01
            OrganizationId                        :
            Id                                    : ContentFilterConfig
            OriginatingServer                     : DC02.domain.local
            IsValid                               : True
            ObjectState                           : Unchanged
            
            
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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by JaredBusch

              Users are null. which mans it would only be using the above disabled global policy.
              [PS] C:\Windows\system32>Get-Mailbox someuser | Format-List SCL*,Bypass*,*SenderAuth*

              SCLDeleteThreshold                   :
              SCLDeleteEnabled                     :
              SCLRejectThreshold                   :
              SCLRejectEnabled                     :
              SCLQuarantineThreshold               :
              SCLQuarantineEnabled                 :
              SCLJunkThreshold                     :
              SCLJunkEnabled                       :
              BypassModerationFromSendersOrMembers : {}
              RequireSenderAuthenticationEnabled   : False
              
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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @JaredBusch said in Exchange 2013 not sending email to Junk Folder:

                Get-ContentFilterConfig

                Can anyone else with an on-prem Exchange server tell be what their settings here are?

                Get-ContentFilterConfig

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  I've set this.

                  Set-OrganizationConfig -SCLJunkThreshold 4
                  

                  now to wait and see what happens.

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                    manxam @JaredBusch
                    last edited by manxam

                    @JaredBusch :

                    RunspaceId                            : 14a9f9e7-80a4-4a8f-86eb-a44d6038b921
                    Name                                  : ContentFilterConfig
                    RejectionResponse                     : Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering.
                    OutlookEmailPostmarkValidationEnabled : True
                    BypassedRecipients                    : {}
                    QuarantineMailbox                     :
                    SCLRejectThreshold                    : 7
                    SCLRejectEnabled                      : True
                    SCLDeleteThreshold                    : 9
                    SCLDeleteEnabled                      : False
                    SCLQuarantineThreshold                : 9
                    SCLQuarantineEnabled                  : False
                    BypassedSenders                       : {}
                    BypassedSenderDomains                 : {}
                    Enabled                               : True
                    ExternalMailEnabled                   : True
                    InternalMailEnabled                   : False
                    AdminDisplayName                      :
                    ExchangeVersion                       : 0.1 (8.0.535.0)
                    DistinguishedName                     : CN=ContentFilterConfig,CN=Message Hygiene,CN=Transport
                                                            Settings,CN=Mail,CN=Microsoft
                                                            Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=Mail,DC=contoso,DC
                    Identity                              : ContentFilterConfig
                    Guid                                  : a21710e1-71a9-40b8-ac79-8655de1cc5ef
                    ObjectCategory                        : Mail.Consoto.com/Configuration/Schema/ms-Exch-Message-Hygien
                                                            onfig
                    ObjectClass                           : {top, msExchAgent, msExchMessageHygieneContentFilterConfig}
                    WhenChanged                           : 10/13/2015 12:01:31 PM
                    WhenCreated                           : 10/13/2015 12:01:31 PM
                    WhenChangedUTC                        : 10/13/2015 4:01:31 PM
                    WhenCreatedUTC                        : 10/13/2015 4:01:31 PM
                    OrganizationId                        :
                    Id                                    : ContentFilterConfig
                    OriginatingServer                     : data.Mail.Consoto.com
                    IsValid                               : True
                    ObjectState                           : Unchanged
                    
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                      manxam
                      last edited by manxam

                      Note the when created and when changed on yours vs mine.
                      This one is default enabled.
                      Yours appears to have changed 3 years after setup.

                      Is it possible that this company had an external mail filter at some point?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @manxam
                        last edited by

                        @manxam said in Exchange 2013 not sending email to Junk Folder:

                        Note the when created and when changed on yours vs mine.
                        This one is default enabled.
                        Yours appears to have changed 3 years after setup.

                        Is it possible that this company had an external mail filter at some point?

                        2014 is 6 years ago..That is when I upgraded them from SBS 2008 R2 to Server 2012 R2 with Exchange 2013.

                        The SBS instance was not set up by me and I never changed these settings. They have had Postini for years until Google screwed it. So it is entirely possible their prior admin disabled this for some reason.

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                          manxam @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          Wonder if this is a legacy setting brought forward from SBS 2008.. Regardless, changing it to 4 like you did should likely fix your issue going forward.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @manxam
                            last edited by

                            @manxam said in Exchange 2013 not sending email to Junk Folder:

                            Wonder if this is a legacy setting brought forward from SBS 2008.. Regardless, changing it to 4 like you did should likely fix your issue going forward.

                            Possibly. Time will tell if mail start going to Junk or not.

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