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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @PhlipElder
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      @PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @Obsolesce said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @Obsolesce said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @Obsolesce said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @Obsolesce said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @PhlipElder said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      I use this guide to walk customers through setting up a machine nearly weekly.

      I'm curious why you push them away from using a MS account?

      If the machine is pulled in to Azure AD by signing in with a MS AAD account, one cannot use that account to RDP into that endpoint. Something be broken there.

      Better to set up a local account and bind the Azure AD/MS Account in the OS settings.

      Interesting - didn't know that.

      So what - you setup a local account, then under that local account, join it to an MS AAD, then login as the MS AAD account? Then you can RDP into the computer using the MS AAD account?

      You can RDP into an AAD joined Win10 PC with an AAD account. I do it all the time.

      Perhaps that account isn't added to the local Administrators group, or the one that allows RDP.

      Log on process?

      Domain\UserName & Password

      or

      [email protected] AAD account?

      For standalone non-domain joined OS VMs/PCs [email protected] AAD does not work.

      Yes [email protected].

      On a device that is joined to AAD, try adding AzureAD\[email protected] like this:

      net localgroup Administrators AzureAD\[email protected] /add

      Otherwise something is misconfigured in AAD. There are a lot of variables in this.

      I ran the gamut of trying to get it to work both in CompMgmt.msc and CMD.

      AAD is vanilla. No changes.

      What's the exact command you used, because it works for me.

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      Nope.

      Not sure if this will work but include AzureAD\ has part of your username.

      Yes that has to be included.

      The error messages says something about the credentials, so no idea. Does it work if you add it to the local Administrators group?

      Other than that, I'm not doing anything different and it works with any AAD account on any AAD device, so I've not had to troubleshoot it.

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      Nope.

      I meant included in the command to add it to a local group with the net command.

      Does it work with an account that is in AD also synced to AAD?

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      • PhlipElderP
        PhlipElder @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce No AD. Workgroup VM.

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        • LilAngL
          LilAng
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          OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

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          • LilAngL
            LilAng
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            @Supreme_Overlord

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @LilAng
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              @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

              OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

              We use this constantly 🙂

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              • LilAngL
                LilAng @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

                We use this constantly 🙂

                yes and it will be great for my padawan to use as reference as well

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @LilAng
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                  @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                  @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                  OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

                  We use this constantly 🙂

                  yes and it will be great for my padawan to use as reference as well

                  I need to update this a little bit. The best thing to do with windows 10 pro, is the click set up for business and domain join (even if no domain). Type in admin username. Leave password blank. Wait for install to complete. Install remote access tool. Set admin account password. Create user account. Reboot.

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                  • LilAngL
                    LilAng @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                    @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                    @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                    OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

                    We use this constantly 🙂

                    yes and it will be great for my padawan to use as reference as well

                    I need to update this a little bit. The best thing to do with windows 10 pro, is the click set up for business and domain join (even if no domain). Type in admin username. Leave password blank. Wait for install to complete. Install remote access tool. Set admin account password. Create user account. Reboot.

                    yea, i've noticed there are some new screens like theres one that prompts you to opt for a "limited experience"

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @LilAng
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                      @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                      @JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                      @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                      @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                      OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

                      We use this constantly 🙂

                      yes and it will be great for my padawan to use as reference as well

                      I need to update this a little bit. The best thing to do with windows 10 pro, is the click set up for business and domain join (even if no domain). Type in admin username. Leave password blank. Wait for install to complete. Install remote access tool. Set admin account password. Create user account. Reboot.

                      yea, i've noticed there are some new screens like there's one that prompts you to opt for a "limited experience"

                      This is the 1903 way to get a local account when choosing personal setup vs corporate ownership of the device.

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                      • LilAngL
                        LilAng @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        @JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

                        We use this constantly 🙂

                        yes and it will be great for my padawan to use as reference as well

                        I need to update this a little bit. The best thing to do with windows 10 pro, is the click set up for business and domain join (even if no domain). Type in admin username. Leave password blank. Wait for install to complete. Install remote access tool. Set admin account password. Create user account. Reboot.

                        yea, i've noticed there are some new screens like there's one that prompts you to opt for a "limited experience"

                        This is the 1903 way to get a local account when choosing personal setup vs corporate ownership of the device.

                        yea i dont know what the page says, i just know to click on limited experience to no have their microsoft account tied to it.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @LilAng
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                          @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @LilAng said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          OMG!!! this is perfect!!! Thanks @JaredBusch , it will be easier to walk people through an out of the box pc.

                          We use this constantly 🙂

                          yes and it will be great for my padawan to use as reference as well

                          I need to update this a little bit. The best thing to do with windows 10 pro, is the click set up for business and domain join (even if no domain). Type in admin username. Leave password blank. Wait for install to complete. Install remote access tool. Set admin account password. Create user account. Reboot.

                          yea, i've noticed there are some new screens like there's one that prompts you to opt for a "limited experience"

                          This is the 1903 way to get a local account when choosing personal setup vs corporate ownership of the device.

                          yea i dont know what the page says, i just know to click on limited experience to no have their microsoft account tied to it.

                          That's why you always click setup for business and then domain. So much simpler workflow.

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs
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                            so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @WrCombs
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                              @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                              so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                              Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @black3dynamite
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                                @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite @WrCombs
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                                  @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                  @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                  @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                  so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                  Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                  Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

                                  You don't have a button the keyboard? Try shift+f10 and ipconfig /release

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @black3dynamite
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                                    @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                    @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                    @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                    @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                    so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                    Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                    Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

                                    You don't have a button the keyboard? Try shift+f10 and ipconfig /release

                                    went into airplane mode; same effect, got to by pass it.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                      @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                      @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                      so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                      Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                      Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

                                      Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

                                      I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                        @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                        so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                        Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                        Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

                                        Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

                                        I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

                                        if you're connected to the internet at time of set up- it looks like you can't set up local accounts.

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                                        • WrCombsW
                                          WrCombs @black3dynamite
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                                          @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                          @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                          so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                          Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                          Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

                                          You don't have a button the keyboard? Try shift+f10 and ipconfig /release

                                          Alos this model of HP doesn't have a Wifi Button on the keyboard from what I can see ..

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

                                            Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

                                            Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

                                            Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

                                            I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

                                            if you're connected to the internet at time of set up- it looks like you can't set up local accounts.

                                            So ridiculous. Since you have your choice of OSes... go for Ubuntu!

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