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JaredBusch

and on top of those costs, do you still have to pay 10 or 20 dollars for a doctor visit and something for prescriptions?

Actually, with the lower cost plan there, you still pay everything. not a co-pay, until after your deductable.

scottalanmiller

Argentina has lost a sub!

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/nasa-icebridge-flying-lab-aids-in-search-for-missing-argentine-navy-sub/

black3dynamite

https://screenrant.com/batman-recasting-jake-gyllenhaal-ben-affleck/

coliver

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

Estimated Tax penalty for not having insurance is $2085.

So assuming a yearly premium of $12,000 for that lowest cost plan, I save $10,000 by not buying insurance.

I'll be speaking with the pediatrician's office on Monday to see what they will change for a routine checkup if we pay cash.

Then for everything else we will use cash at urgent care facilities. Those generally only cost $150 a visit.

Obviously the risk is something like a broken bone.

Wasn't there talk of an executive order that would forego the uninsured penalty? Or is that locked up in the courts?

scottalanmiller

@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

Estimated Tax penalty for not having insurance is $2085.

So assuming a yearly premium of $12,000 for that lowest cost plan, I save $10,000 by not buying insurance.

I'll be speaking with the pediatrician's office on Monday to see what they will change for a routine checkup if we pay cash.

Then for everything else we will use cash at urgent care facilities. Those generally only cost $150 a visit.

Obviously the risk is something like a broken bone.

Wasn't there talk of an executive order that would forego the uninsured penalty? Or is that locked up in the courts?

Or was it just fake?

mlnews

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/vast-archive-from-pentagon-intel-gathering-operation-left-open-on-amazon/

black3dynamite

https://deadspin.com/american-soccer-needs-to-burn-to-the-ground-1820488165

scottalanmiller

AC/DC guitarist Malcolm Young dies at 64
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42037566

mlnews

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

dafyre

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

scottalanmiller

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

dafyre

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

Mine only rings for actual people that I have contact info for.

Anybody else can leave a voicemail.

scottalanmiller

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

Mine only rings for actual people that I have contact info for.

Anybody else can leave a voicemail.

Businesses have a hard time doing that, they need to take calls from almost anyone.

dafyre

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

Mine only rings for actual people that I have contact info for.

Anybody else can leave a voicemail.

Businesses have a hard time doing that, they need to take calls from almost anyone.

Good thing I'm not a business.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

scottalanmiller

@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

Well it isn't completely trivial, it's a little complex. But yes, overall, there should be security around this.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

Well it isn't completely trivial, it's a little complex. But yes, overall, there should be security around this.

lack of security from day one allowed this madness.

scottalanmiller

@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

Well it isn't completely trivial, it's a little complex. But yes, overall, there should be security around this.

lack of security from day one allowed this madness.

Yeah, no one ever thought about securing the public networks.

dbeato

@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

So this year my Health insurance plan costs me $818 per month.

Just went through Healthcare.gov to see how screwed I am this year.

The plan on the left is the "same" as my plan this year was.
The plan on the right is the lowest premium cost plan of all 25 plans available to me.

That sucks, I am on the same boat and super high deductibles too.

EddieJennings

@dbeato Sorry to read But I cannot say I'm surprised.