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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

      So this year my Health insurance plan costs me $818 per month.

      Just went through Healthcare.gov to see how screwed I am this year.

      The plan on the left is the "same" as my plan this year was.
      The plan on the right is the lowest premium cost plan of all 25 plans available to me.

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      That's quite a chunk of a salary. I'd rather pay higher taxes in Europe, you get more for your money.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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        and on top of those costs, do you still have to pay 10 or 20 dollars for a doctor visit and something for prescriptions?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

          and on top of those costs, do you still have to pay 10 or 20 dollars for a doctor visit and something for prescriptions?

          Actually, with the lower cost plan there, you still pay everything. not a co-pay, until after your deductable.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Argentina has lost a sub!

            https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/nasa-icebridge-flying-lab-aids-in-search-for-missing-argentine-navy-sub/

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite
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              https://screenrant.com/batman-recasting-jake-gyllenhaal-ben-affleck/

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              • coliverC
                coliver @JaredBusch
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                @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Estimated Tax penalty for not having insurance is $2085.

                So assuming a yearly premium of $12,000 for that lowest cost plan, I save $10,000 by not buying insurance.

                I'll be speaking with the pediatrician's office on Monday to see what they will change for a routine checkup if we pay cash.

                Then for everything else we will use cash at urgent care facilities. Those generally only cost $150 a visit.

                Obviously the risk is something like a broken bone.

                Wasn't there talk of an executive order that would forego the uninsured penalty? Or is that locked up in the courts?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Estimated Tax penalty for not having insurance is $2085.

                  So assuming a yearly premium of $12,000 for that lowest cost plan, I save $10,000 by not buying insurance.

                  I'll be speaking with the pediatrician's office on Monday to see what they will change for a routine checkup if we pay cash.

                  Then for everything else we will use cash at urgent care facilities. Those generally only cost $150 a visit.

                  Obviously the risk is something like a broken bone.

                  Wasn't there talk of an executive order that would forego the uninsured penalty? Or is that locked up in the courts?

                  Or was it just fake?

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/vast-archive-from-pentagon-intel-gathering-operation-left-open-on-amazon/

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite
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                      https://deadspin.com/american-soccer-needs-to-burn-to-the-ground-1820488165

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        AC/DC guitarist Malcolm Young dies at 64
                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42037566

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
                          last edited by

                          https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @mlnews
                            last edited by

                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                            Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                              Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                              Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                Mine only rings for actual people that I have contact info for. 😄

                                Anybody else can leave a voicemail.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                  Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                  Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                  Mine only rings for actual people that I have contact info for. 😄

                                  Anybody else can leave a voicemail.

                                  Businesses have a hard time doing that, they need to take calls from almost anyone.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                    Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                    Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                    Mine only rings for actual people that I have contact info for. 😄

                                    Anybody else can leave a voicemail.

                                    Businesses have a hard time doing that, they need to take calls from almost anyone.

                                    Good thing I'm not a business. 🙂

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                      Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                      Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                      I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                        Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                        Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                        I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

                                        Well it isn't completely trivial, it's a little complex. But yes, overall, there should be security around this.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                          Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                          Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                          I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

                                          Well it isn't completely trivial, it's a little complex. But yes, overall, there should be security around this.

                                          lack of security from day one allowed this madness.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/11/new-robocall-blocking-tools-on-the-way-but-carriers-can-charge-you-extra/

                                            Meh. Not necessary. If I get a call from a human that I dont' reocgnize the number for, they'll leave a voice mail if it is important.

                                            Nice to keep phones from ringing. No one wants to have to even check the phone for a fake number.

                                            I just shake my head that the phone company doesn't prevent this on their own. I guess there was customer reason to do this.. but ug..

                                            Well it isn't completely trivial, it's a little complex. But yes, overall, there should be security around this.

                                            lack of security from day one allowed this madness.

                                            Yeah, no one ever thought about securing the public networks.

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