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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

      @coliver said in Feedback on Resume:

      @bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:

      I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.

      Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).

      If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though

      That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.

      Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.

      But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.

      What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of

      You can get more pay by simply moving to a different job. Most often that is where many people get substantial raises from.

      Not from moving to a larger organization, but by simply changing jobs and demanding more for their time.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

        @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

        @coliver said in Feedback on Resume:

        @bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:

        I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.

        Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).

        If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though

        That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.

        Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.

        But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.

        What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of

        I'm confused. Bigger doesn't imply anything like that. UNtil CIO of course, SMBs can't have senior CIOs, just makes no sense.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

          @coliver said in Feedback on Resume:

          @bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:

          I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.

          Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).

          If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though

          That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.

          Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.

          But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.

          What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of

          You can get more pay by simply moving to a different job. Most often that is where many people get substantial raises from.

          Not from moving to a larger organization, but by simply changing jobs and demanding more for their time.

          In fact, often easier to move up in the SMB because the job hopping is a requirement that can't be avoided.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22
            last edited by wirestyle22

            Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

              Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

              15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

                15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

                It's the truth. I took a huge pay cut to start working here. I wanted to be a part of a team, but I forgot that a team consists of people and I don't like people

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                  Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

                  15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

                  i think it depends on where you start.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                    Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

                    15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

                    i think it depends on where you start.

                    "Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                      Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

                      15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

                      i think it depends on where you start.

                      "Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"

                      You're funny.

                      My first IT job - Desktop end user support paid $20K/yr

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                        Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

                        15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

                        i think it depends on where you start.

                        "Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"

                        You're funny.

                        My first IT job - Desktop end user support paid $20K/yr

                        My first was similar. More though, maybe $23K. Which sounds trivial but is a lot of money when that is what you make 🙂 It was entry level Solaris support.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                          Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.

                          15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .

                          i think it depends on where you start.

                          "Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"

                          You're funny.

                          My first IT job - Desktop end user support paid $20K/yr

                          My first one wasn't that long ago. I was doing everything but title at a high school. Left after a year because I was doing everything and kept getting thrown under the bus by my manager. I think I was making ~$40k

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            I think my first job (started as a file clerk) and transition into desktop support I was making 20K, so I suppose.

                            The numbers just seem large for a 15K between job moves. Not including annual raises etc.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              I think my first job (started as a file clerk) and transition into desktop support I was making 20K, so I suppose.

                              The numbers just seem large for a 15K between job moves. Not including annual raises etc.

                              I was 16K my second move and 10K my third.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                I started at 32k

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  I got about a 10% raise ~$4k when I made my recent switch.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    I started at 32k

                                    And you've had 4 jobs correct? So you're at or around 77K currently, correct?

                                    Is the cost of living so high that you feel you desktop support starts at that range?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by wirestyle22

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                      I started at 32k

                                      And you've had 4 jobs correct? So you're at or around 77K currently, correct?

                                      Is the cost of living so high that you feel you desktop support starts at that range?

                                      I jumped to 90 but took a paycut to 50 where i currently work. The reality is I couldn't do the job I was hired to do. Sad fact. Remember, 15k was the minimum not every jump.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        I think my first job (started as a file clerk) and transition into desktop support I was making 20K, so I suppose.

                                        The numbers just seem large for a 15K between job moves. Not including annual raises etc.

                                        As I said, my first job was 20K, but with OT I was pulling near 30K. So my internal department change at that company was a 10K raise to $30K. A year later another $5k bump. 6 months after that I left and went to a consulting company where I moved from $35K > $55K.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          I started at 32k

                                          And you've had 4 jobs correct? So you're at or around 77K currently, correct?

                                          Is the cost of living so high that you feel you desktop support starts at that range?

                                          I jumped to 90 but took a paycut to 50 where i currently work. The reality is I couldn't do the job I was hired to do. Sad fact. Remember, 15k was the minimum not every jump.

                                          Couldn't do what job? the last one at 90? So you quit or they let you go?

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                                            last edited by wirestyle22

                                            @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            I started at 32k

                                            And you've had 4 jobs correct? So you're at or around 77K currently, correct?

                                            Is the cost of living so high that you feel you desktop support starts at that range?

                                            I jumped to 90 but took a paycut to 50 where i currently work. The reality is I couldn't do the job I was hired to do. Sad fact. Remember, 15k was the minimum not every jump.

                                            Couldn't do what job? the last one at 90? So you quit or they let you go?

                                            I left. I easily could've milked it for awhile but it just wasn't the honest thing to do

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