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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch But the 5S is not much different in price so using a 3S is of not benefit when price is the same...

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @dbeato
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        @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

        @JaredBusch But the 5S is not much different in price so using a 3S is of not benefit when price is the same...

        Voltage regulation is the biggest thing IMO.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch Yes, that is big.

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          • guyinpvG
            guyinpv
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            I assume voltage regulation is the root of my issue then. The laser printer caused "something" that the battery is not designed or quick enough to handle.

            The only weird thing is that it doesn't happen most of the time. About once in every 50 prints maybe more.

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            • Mike DavisM
              Mike Davis
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              To troubleshoot, if you get a voltmeter, make sure to use an old analog one. The voltage dip may be too quick for a digital one to detect. With a good analog one, you can watch the needle drop for a second if there is a quick dip.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                I assume voltage regulation is the root of my issue then. The laser printer caused "something" that the battery is not designed or quick enough to handle.

                The only weird thing is that it doesn't happen most of the time. About once in every 50 prints maybe more.

                That's my guess.

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                • guyinpvG
                  guyinpv
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                  Well it happened again.

                  Ordered an Eaton 5S700. Might as well give it a shot.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ
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                    Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                      Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                      Right. Isn't that in UPS 101?

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        Boom that still holds true today

                        http://www.apc.com/us/en/faqs/FA158812/

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                          @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                          Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                          Right. Isn't that in UPS 101?

                          Yeah. I am surprised everyone is trying to recommend a solution instead of telling him it isnt recommended and for good reason. When losing power, generally a printer is the last thing you worry about.

                          If you must have an emergency printer, I would recommend a high speed inkjet.

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                          • DanpD
                            Danp @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                            Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                            He's isn't. The printer is plugged directly into the wall, but it's on the same circuit as the UPS.

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                            • guyinpvG
                              guyinpv
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                              I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                              The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
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                                This is the second time today someone has accused me of not reading a thread.

                                I will not mention how many times it has been true.

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                                • guyinpvG
                                  guyinpv @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                  This is the second time today someone has accused me of not reading a thread.

                                  I will not mention how many times it has been true.

                                  I think somewhere in here is a male/female communication analogy.

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @guyinpv
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                                    @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                    I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                                    The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

                                    Well now that the issue is obvious. Get an electrician to fix it

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @IRJ
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                                      @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                      @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                      I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                                      The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

                                      Well now that the issue is obvious. Get an electrician to fix it

                                      Also been mentioned. But still, the UPS should not do what it is doing unless it has failed also.

                                      A new UPS will not do this, and that will give him time to get an electrician out as needed later.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                                        I wouldn't put a laser printer into a UPS.

                                        If you lack plugs, and need protection, use a good power strip (for the printer) in one wall socket, use the APC in the other.

                                        Jared, this isn't supposed to be a reply to you... I don't know why it did that.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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                                          @Tim_G said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                          Jared, this isn't supposed to be a reply to you... I don't know why it did that.

                                          Understood

                                          @Tim_G said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                          I wouldn't put a laser printer into a UPS.

                                          If you lack plugs, and need protection, use a good power strip (for the printer) in one wall socket, use the APC in the other.

                                          FFS people. There is no damned printer plugged into a UPS.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by Obsolesce

                                            @JaredBusch said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                            @Tim_G said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                            I wouldn't put a laser printer into a UPS.

                                            If you lack plugs, and need protection, use a good power strip (for the printer) in one wall socket, use the APC in the other.

                                            FFS people. There is no damned printer plugged into a UPS.

                                            Misread. Please do accept my apology.

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