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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @dbeato
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      @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

      @JaredBusch said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

      would likely not have these problems here. They

      I am actually buying 35 Eaton battery backups this month so it is good to hear on that. I am replacing some APCs here.

      I would only buy the 5S or better series.
      http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5S.aspx?cx=3

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch Good to know, let me check them out.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @dbeato
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          @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

          @JaredBusch Good to know, let me check them out.

          I guess if you honestly do not care about the user, the 3 series is ok. PC, monitor, and desk phone only things on it.

          Just consider it a glorified surge protector that hold power for a minute, not a battery backup.

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          • dbeatoD
            dbeato @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch But the 5S is not much different in price so using a 3S is of not benefit when price is the same...

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @dbeato
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              @dbeato said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

              @JaredBusch But the 5S is not much different in price so using a 3S is of not benefit when price is the same...

              Voltage regulation is the biggest thing IMO.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch Yes, that is big.

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                • guyinpvG
                  guyinpv
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                  I assume voltage regulation is the root of my issue then. The laser printer caused "something" that the battery is not designed or quick enough to handle.

                  The only weird thing is that it doesn't happen most of the time. About once in every 50 prints maybe more.

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                  • Mike DavisM
                    Mike Davis
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                    To troubleshoot, if you get a voltmeter, make sure to use an old analog one. The voltage dip may be too quick for a digital one to detect. With a good analog one, you can watch the needle drop for a second if there is a quick dip.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                      @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                      I assume voltage regulation is the root of my issue then. The laser printer caused "something" that the battery is not designed or quick enough to handle.

                      The only weird thing is that it doesn't happen most of the time. About once in every 50 prints maybe more.

                      That's my guess.

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                      • guyinpvG
                        guyinpv
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                        Well it happened again.

                        Ordered an Eaton 5S700. Might as well give it a shot.

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                        • IRJI
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                          Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                            Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                            Right. Isn't that in UPS 101?

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ
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                              Boom that still holds true today

                              http://www.apc.com/us/en/faqs/FA158812/

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                                Right. Isn't that in UPS 101?

                                Yeah. I am surprised everyone is trying to recommend a solution instead of telling him it isnt recommended and for good reason. When losing power, generally a printer is the last thing you worry about.

                                If you must have an emergency printer, I would recommend a high speed inkjet.

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                                • DanpD
                                  Danp @IRJ
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                                  @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                  Never using a UPS on a laser printer is probably the only useful thing I learned in A+.....

                                  He's isn't. The printer is plugged directly into the wall, but it's on the same circuit as the UPS.

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                                  • guyinpvG
                                    guyinpv
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                                    I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                                    The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
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                                      This is the second time today someone has accused me of not reading a thread.

                                      I will not mention how many times it has been true.

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                                      • guyinpvG
                                        guyinpv @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                        This is the second time today someone has accused me of not reading a thread.

                                        I will not mention how many times it has been true.

                                        I think somewhere in here is a male/female communication analogy.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @guyinpv
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                                          @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                          I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                                          The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

                                          Well now that the issue is obvious. Get an electrician to fix it

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @IRJ
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                                            @IRJ said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                            @guyinpv said in Laser printer sometimes trips an APC and shuts off computer??:

                                            I have scientific proof some people respond to threads without reading anything but the last one or two posts.

                                            The printer is not even on the same cord or wall socket as my computer/UPS, but it still causes a brownout. It trips my Back-UPS ES 550 but not a Back-UPS Pro 700 I have in the same room for other stuff.

                                            Well now that the issue is obvious. Get an electrician to fix it

                                            Also been mentioned. But still, the UPS should not do what it is doing unless it has failed also.

                                            A new UPS will not do this, and that will give him time to get an electrician out as needed later.

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