Netscaler in smb opinion
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 @Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info. What company gains? Nothing now but having a bit of knowledge lets me provide better advice to the idiotic things they shant buy just because it is cool. 
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 @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion: Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning? I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000 
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 No SMB needs a Netscaler  It's a waste of time if you are hoping to learn about a product that will be useful to you. It's a waste of time if you are hoping to learn about a product that will be useful to you.
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 @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion: @Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info. That's not always the case. Biased info can be far worse than no info at all. Like learning about a SAN but being told it is a panacea instead of what it really is. Way better to not know that something exists that to learn misleading information about it. 
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 @scottalanmiller said in Netscaler in smb opinion: @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion: @Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info. That's not always the case. Biased info can be far worse than no info at all. Like learning about a SAN but being told it is a panacea instead of what it really is. Way better to not know that something exists that to learn misleading information about it. well no, I was specifically thinking about the features of xenapp. their online docs were interesting, but not so detailed. having the possibility to have a talk with a couple or real people was an interesting opportunity. Still info was filtered by commercial s**t but at least more details were to be discovered. Unfortunately, I was invited as a reseller's lead for xenapp as a way to put all stuff into a virtualized "repo" (automation was my interest) BUT the italian HD of citrix has sent people involved in security. Netscaler is secure for this, xandesktop is secure for that... I DON'T GIVE A F**K ABOUT SECURITY... 
 I said it out loud? ops...err... maybe resellers should coordinate with the distributor/vendor before picking invitations. At least I have had few exchanges with other IT guys at the event. An considering the inclination of my current company to NOT expose me to meetings/conferences with other guys, this has been welcome (why do you want to talk to someone else, just do the work) 
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 @stacksofplates said in Netscaler in smb opinion: @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion: Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning? I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000 even the VA? great value for a reverse proxy on steroids  
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 @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion: @stacksofplates said in Netscaler in smb opinion: @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion: Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning? I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000 even the VA? great value for a reverse proxy on steroids  Here's the VPX. $25K for the standard 3Gbps version. http://store.citrix.com/store/citrix/en_US/pd/ThemeID.28169600/productID.315172500 
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 @stacksofplates mmm... and I thought HPE was expensive  
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 ok, so according to the presentation a netscaler is: - a load balancer
- a reverse proxy
- a SSO gateway
- a (W)AF (web application firewall)
 now first two points can be obtained by haproxy/ngnix point 3 can be obtained -just googled- for web apps by naxsi + nginx or modsec + nginx/apache. also point 3 for non web apps can maybe obtained via these softwares (wiki) I miss point 2 an - with a bit of effort - I have my free open netscaler  


