Netscaler in smb opinion
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What do you get for giving them hours of your time? Regardless of the product, that is irrelevant.
What are you gaining by committing that block of time? What benefit does it bring to you? What does it bring to the company?
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@Breffni-Potter quite easy: I was here for xenapp. They are talking netscaler for 30 min. Finally landed now on xenapp
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@Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info. What company gains? Nothing now but having a bit of knowledge lets me provide better advice to the idiotic things they shant buy just because it is cool.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning?
I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000
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No SMB needs a Netscaler
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@matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
@Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info.
That's not always the case. Biased info can be far worse than no info at all. Like learning about a SAN but being told it is a panacea instead of what it really is. Way better to not know that something exists that to learn misleading information about it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
@matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
@Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info.
That's not always the case. Biased info can be far worse than no info at all. Like learning about a SAN but being told it is a panacea instead of what it really is. Way better to not know that something exists that to learn misleading information about it.
well no, I was specifically thinking about the features of xenapp. their online docs were interesting, but not so detailed. having the possibility to have a talk with a couple or real people was an interesting opportunity. Still info was filtered by commercial s**t but at least more details were to be discovered.
Unfortunately, I was invited as a reseller's lead for xenapp as a way to put all stuff into a virtualized "repo" (automation was my interest) BUT the italian HD of citrix has sent people involved in security.
Netscaler is secure for this, xandesktop is secure for that... I DON'T GIVE A F**K ABOUT SECURITY...
I said it out loud? ops...err... maybe resellers should coordinate with the distributor/vendor before picking invitations. At least I have had few exchanges with other IT guys at the event. An considering the inclination of my current company to NOT expose me to meetings/conferences with other guys, this has been welcome (why do you want to talk to someone else, just do the work)
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@stacksofplates said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
@matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning?
I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000
even the VA? great value for a reverse proxy on steroids
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@matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
@stacksofplates said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
@matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:
Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning?
I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000
even the VA? great value for a reverse proxy on steroids
Here's the VPX. $25K for the standard 3Gbps version. http://store.citrix.com/store/citrix/en_US/pd/ThemeID.28169600/productID.315172500
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@stacksofplates mmm... and I thought HPE was expensive
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ok, so according to the presentation a netscaler is:
- a load balancer
- a reverse proxy
- a SSO gateway
- a (W)AF (web application firewall)
now first two points can be obtained by haproxy/ngnix
point 3 can be obtained -just googled- for web apps by naxsi + nginx or modsec + nginx/apache.
also point 3 for non web apps can maybe obtained via these softwares (wiki)
I miss point 2 an - with a bit of effort - I have my free open netscaler
