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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      We have DC Licensing

      Well that's a start - but still doesn't imply you'll get the gains you're might be thinking.

      i.e. let's assume you have two servers that are spec'ed correctly to run all loads on one server. Splitting the load over two hosts doesn't really gain you anything performance wise. Uptime wise it gives you a little - i.e. if one host dies, the VMs on the other will be online the whole time, while the other move to the new host.

      I'm not expecting huge performance gains though. I just think there is a better way to achieve hardware redundancy than what they are planning which doesn't involve wasting a lot of resources.

      Where do you see the wasted resources?

      He has a second server doing nothing but being a replica. He is calling that a waste. The point is hardware redundancy you're always going to waste resources are used because you have redundant hardware that's the point of the word redundant.

      Yeah - I was looking for him to say this and come to this conclusion on his own. Realizing that his concern was really the point in having the extra server in the first place.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        We have DC Licensing

        Well that's a start - but still doesn't imply you'll get the gains you're might be thinking.

        i.e. let's assume you have two servers that are spec'ed correctly to run all loads on one server. Splitting the load over two hosts doesn't really gain you anything performance wise. Uptime wise it gives you a little - i.e. if one host dies, the VMs on the other will be online the whole time, while the other move to the new host.

        I'm not expecting huge performance gains though. I just think there is a better way to achieve hardware redundancy than what they are planning which doesn't involve wasting a lot of resources.

        Where do you see the wasted resources?

        He has a second server doing nothing but being a replica. He is calling that a waste. The point is hardware redundancy you're always going to waste resources are used because you have redundant hardware that's the point of the word redundant.

        The new hosts are many times more powerful/greater capacity than what we currently have. As an example, If we're using 128 GB of memory with very little expected growth over the next 10 years there is no reason to buy 256 GB of memory. That would mean half of the memory would be "wasted" if it's just sitting there not being utilized. Where as we can cluster and use any of the resources that would normally be wasted right?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          We have DC Licensing

          Well that's a start - but still doesn't imply you'll get the gains you're might be thinking.

          i.e. let's assume you have two servers that are spec'ed correctly to run all loads on one server. Splitting the load over two hosts doesn't really gain you anything performance wise. Uptime wise it gives you a little - i.e. if one host dies, the VMs on the other will be online the whole time, while the other move to the new host.

          I'm not expecting huge performance gains though. I just think there is a better way to achieve hardware redundancy than what they are planning which doesn't involve wasting a lot of resources.

          Where do you see the wasted resources?

          He has a second server doing nothing but being a replica. He is calling that a waste. The point is hardware redundancy you're always going to waste resources are used because you have redundant hardware that's the point of the word redundant.

          The new hosts are many times more powerful/greater capacity than what we currently have. As an example, If we're using 128 GB of memory with very little expected growth over the next 10 years there is no reason to buy 256 GB of memory. That would mean half of the memory would be "wasted" if it's just sitting there not being utilized. Where as we can cluster and use any of the resources that would normally be wasted right?

          what are you wanting to cluster? Use a real example, perhaps then we'll see where you are trying to go.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            We have DC Licensing

            Well that's a start - but still doesn't imply you'll get the gains you're might be thinking.

            i.e. let's assume you have two servers that are spec'ed correctly to run all loads on one server. Splitting the load over two hosts doesn't really gain you anything performance wise. Uptime wise it gives you a little - i.e. if one host dies, the VMs on the other will be online the whole time, while the other move to the new host.

            I'm not expecting huge performance gains though. I just think there is a better way to achieve hardware redundancy than what they are planning which doesn't involve wasting a lot of resources.

            Redundancy and waste are kind of the same term. If it isn't wasted, it's not redundant. More or less.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              We have DC Licensing

              Well that's a start - but still doesn't imply you'll get the gains you're might be thinking.

              i.e. let's assume you have two servers that are spec'ed correctly to run all loads on one server. Splitting the load over two hosts doesn't really gain you anything performance wise. Uptime wise it gives you a little - i.e. if one host dies, the VMs on the other will be online the whole time, while the other move to the new host.

              I'm not expecting huge performance gains though. I just think there is a better way to achieve hardware redundancy than what they are planning which doesn't involve wasting a lot of resources.

              Where do you see the wasted resources?

              He has a second server doing nothing but being a replica. He is calling that a waste. The point is hardware redundancy you're always going to waste resources are used because you have redundant hardware that's the point of the word redundant.

              The new hosts are many times more powerful/greater capacity than what we currently have. As an example, If we're using 128 GB of memory with very little expected growth over the next 10 years there is no reason to buy 256 GB of memory. That would mean half of the memory would be "wasted" if it's just sitting there not being utilized. Where as we can cluster and use any of the resources that would normally be wasted right?

              Of course it would be wasted. If you cluster, half of your resources are idle in case the other half fail. If half of the resources are not wasted, and something fails, where would it go?

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Sunny and cold Thursday morning it's 20°F sitting behind traffic

                0_1486046983365_image.jpg

                Your sitting and your doing 75 mph?

                Odd.
                Yes you are sitting in your car,... but your car is not sitting still...

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse I never said standstill traffic just traffic. I don't like people in front of me that means they're going to slow.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @gjacobse I never said standstill traffic just traffic. I don't like people in front of me that means they're going to slow.

                    You sound like my brother... nearly 80% of the conversation time is about other drivers and idiots who 'try to race him'...

                    Get over it,.. People are morons, don't know how to drive, drive to slow, are in the wrong lane, on their phone playing Ingress or some other non- driving task..... But that's just an opinion.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @gjacobse I never said standstill traffic just traffic. I don't like people in front of me that means they're going to slow.

                      You sound like my brother... nearly 80% of the conversation time is about other drivers and idiots who 'try to race him'...

                      Get over it,.. People are morons, don't know how to drive, drive to slow, are in the wrong lane, on their phone playing Ingress or some other non- driving task..... But that's just an opinion.

                      I think you need to step back and chill the fuck out. I like to set my cruise control 80. they are in my way. people can go faster than me people go slower than me,just can't be in my way.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @gjacobse I never said standstill traffic just traffic. I don't like people in front of me that means they're going to slow.

                        This is typically my driving pattern as well, I normally lead the pack of cars, definitely dislike not being the leader in that situation.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn
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                          I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @gjacobse I never said standstill traffic just traffic. I don't like people in front of me that means they're going to slow.

                            You sound like my brother... nearly 80% of the conversation time is about other drivers and idiots who 'try to race him'...

                            Get over it,.. People are morons, don't know how to drive, drive to slow, are in the wrong lane, on their phone playing Ingress or some other non- driving task..... But that's just an opinion.

                            I think you need to step back and chill the fuck out. I like to set my cruise control 80. they are in my way. people can go faster than me people go slower than me,just can't be in my way.

                            You need to live in Spain. No speed limits enforced. But drive in the wrong lane and block people and you're in trouble.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @gjacobse I never said standstill traffic just traffic. I don't like people in front of me that means they're going to slow.

                              You sound like my brother... nearly 80% of the conversation time is about other drivers and idiots who 'try to race him'...

                              Get over it,.. People are morons, don't know how to drive, drive to slow, are in the wrong lane, on their phone playing Ingress or some other non- driving task..... But that's just an opinion.

                              I think you need to step back and chill the fuck out. I like to set my cruise control 80. they are in my way. people can go faster than me people go slower than me,just can't be in my way.

                              You need to live in Spain. No speed limits enforced. But drive in the wrong lane and block people and you're in trouble.

                              Same goes for Germany.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                                @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

                                That's because you live in TX, the slowest driving state. In NY you are expected to drive mine over and you'll not be passing much of anyone. TX is unique in being the only place I've ever been where the average is always slower than the posted limit.

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

                                  That's because you live in TX, the slowest driving state. In NY you are expected to drive mine over and you'll not be passing much of anyone. TX is unique in being the only place I've ever been where the average is always slower than the posted limit.

                                  Since NY's speeds are 65 and they are going 9 over, that almost makes it what we can legally drive in most of Texas... 😉

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

                                    That's because you live in TX, the slowest driving state. In NY you are expected to drive mine over and you'll not be passing much of anyone. TX is unique in being the only place I've ever been where the average is always slower than the posted limit.

                                    What part of Texas are you driving in? Everywhere I have been, for the most part, you drive at least the speed limit or you get ran over. You will have some old people or rock hauling semi's that will drive slower. Just have to get around those.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco
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                                      Driving in Atlanta traffic can best be summed up in this Ludacris song:

                                      Youtube Video

                                      (We drive really fast down here)

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                                        @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

                                        That's because you live in TX, the slowest driving state. In NY you are expected to drive mine over and you'll not be passing much of anyone. TX is unique in being the only place I've ever been where the average is always slower than the posted limit.

                                        What part of Texas are you driving in? Everywhere I have been, for the most part, you drive at least the speed limit or you get ran over. You will have some old people or rock hauling semi's that will drive slower. Just have to get around those.

                                        Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio. Texans always say it is fast. But it's the slowest driving I've ever seen.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                                          @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

                                          That's because you live in TX, the slowest driving state. In NY you are expected to drive mine over and you'll not be passing much of anyone. TX is unique in being the only place I've ever been where the average is always slower than the posted limit.

                                          Since NY's speeds are 65 and they are going 9 over, that almost makes it what we can legally drive in most of Texas... 😉

                                          Yeah. But they drive over rather than under.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @brianlittlejohn said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            I set mine to 79 (speed limit 75), that usually puts me passing most people but then have a handful of people going faster than me so I'm less likely to get pulled over and given a ticket.

                                            That's because you live in TX, the slowest driving state. In NY you are expected to drive mine over and you'll not be passing much of anyone. TX is unique in being the only place I've ever been where the average is always slower than the posted limit.

                                            What part of Texas are you driving in? Everywhere I have been, for the most part, you drive at least the speed limit or you get ran over. You will have some old people or rock hauling semi's that will drive slower. Just have to get around those.

                                            Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio. Texans always say it is fast. But it's the slowest driving I've ever seen.

                                            I remember that, and it's still not so nerve wracking for me as Seattle/Tacoma Washington area. Everyone goes the same speed no matter what lane they're in, so annoying during rush hour!

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