SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016
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Wow NEC is not impressive. They have this crazy fault tolerant product that only gets you up to the reliability of a normal server. And it requires you to run two nodes and own a third to do it. Um.... what?
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And they think that normal enterprise servers have 43.5 hours of downtime every year.
What?
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And they said that they are the only vendor with failover nodes. What? They don't have anything even interesting. We've seen that from HPE, IBM, Oracle, Fujitsu, Hitachi for years. It's like they didn't research the market before making products. They have no idea what normal reliability is nor what other companies make.
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@Texkonc asked then if the had dual power supplies in their fault tolerant systems and the answer is.... no.
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They did a long presentation on SDN. Which wasn't bad but basically what they offer is a central management system that is unnecessary and pointless for the scale of the audience here.
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Unified Storage is NAS and SAN in one box. Not a NAS in front of the SAN.
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They push that they are Japanese a bit too much. They've included being Japanese as a selling point twice now. Not sure why that matters. What does the fact that they are Japanese add in value?
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@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
And they think that normal enterprise servers have 43.5 hours of downtime every year.
What?
As in every single server in an enterprise has that much down time? wow! That's crazy!
Do they consider time a server is rebooting to be downtime? As in rebooting for patches? Even then, that might be high.
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@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
They push that they are Japanese a bit too much. They've included being Japanese as a selling point twice now. Not sure why that matters. What does the fact that they are Japanese add in value?
Well there was a time that Americans considered Japanese products top notch, but I think those days are over.
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@Dashrender said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
And they think that normal enterprise servers have 43.5 hours of downtime every year.
What?
As in every single server in an enterprise has that much down time? wow! That's crazy!
Do they consider time a server is rebooting to be downtime? As in rebooting for patches? Even then, that might be high.
That's what they think. Who knows how they count it. It's all pretty crazy. If you reboot for OS patches, that would not count as their system has the same downtime for that.
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@Dashrender said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
They push that they are Japanese a bit too much. They've included being Japanese as a selling point twice now. Not sure why that matters. What does the fact that they are Japanese add in value?
Well there was a time that Americans considered Japanese products top notch, but I think those days are over.
That was like the 1970s.
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Not a great meeting.
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@Texkonc said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
Not a great meeting.
Not so good, no. We gave up quiz night for that!!
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@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
@Texkonc said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
Not a great meeting.
Not so good, no. We gave up quiz night for that!!
Horrible mistake
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@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
@Dashrender said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
They push that they are Japanese a bit too much. They've included being Japanese as a selling point twice now. Not sure why that matters. What does the fact that they are Japanese add in value?
Well there was a time that Americans considered Japanese products top notch, but I think those days are over.
That was like the 1970s.
As a friend point out today, this reference was actually made in the movie Back to the Future, 1985, so at least through the mid 80's consumers believed Japanese stuff was top notch.
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https://www.necam.com/Servers/FT/
This silliness they were trying to push.
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@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
https://www.necam.com/Servers/FT/
This silliness they were trying to push.
We're jealous of Dell's VRTX series, we want to push something about as bad?
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@travisdh1 said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in SpiceCorps DFW November 15, 2016:
https://www.necam.com/Servers/FT/
This silliness they were trying to push.
We're jealous of Dell's VRTX series, we want to push something about as bad?
Far, far worse. I can come up with great uses cases for the VRTX. This train wreck, though, I have no idea. The VRTX is just niche for ROBOs. But this.... what idiot would even look at one of these?
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NEC does fault tolerance.... without high availability. What a disaster.
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On our way.
