New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches
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@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.
UniFi or Edge
UniFi, we have Edge in the datacenter already and like it a lot. Have not been able to play with the UniFi switches yet, only the APs.
Then the recently announced, but not yet easily obtained, UniFi 8 port 150W would be perfect.
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@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.
Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.
EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.
UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.
Interesting. Will have a look. Noticed that the UniFi Switches don't have SFP+ ports, that may be a showstopper for my specific use case. But I also don't want to spend like 2-4k EUR per access switch, that's why I'm still looking for options.
The point is: I do have a 10G uplink (dark fiber) at that site. It's planned as a shared research lab and all parties there will have their own little server cabinet. Need to bring at least a little bandwith to each party. A bit hard to explain.
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@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.
Yes, UniFi would remind you of Meraki, but you host your own controller and don't have to deal with an annual charge for owning the gear.
The UniFi line is also more limited in functionality than EdgeMax when it comes to the routers. I have not compared the switches.
I don't care about any routers, I'm a pfSense junky
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@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.
Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.
EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.
UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.
Interesting. Will have a look. Noticed that the UniFi Switches don't have SFP+ ports, that may be a showstopper for my specific use case. But I also don't want to spend like 2-4k EUR per access switch, that's why I'm still looking for options.
The point is: I do have a 10G uplink (dark fiber) at that site. It's planned as a shared research lab and all parties there will have their own little server cabinet. Need to bring at least a little bandwith to each party. A bit hard to explain.
Two of the SFP are SFP+ on the PoE model.
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@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.
Yes, the base hardware is similar (but not exactly the same) from EdgeMax to UniFi.
EdgeMax is more carrier grade in the design concept.
UniFi is the central managed point and click Meraki concept.
Interesting. Will have a look. Noticed that the UniFi Switches don't have SFP+ ports, that may be a showstopper for my specific use case. But I also don't want to spend like 2-4k EUR per access switch, that's why I'm still looking for options.
The point is: I do have a 10G uplink (dark fiber) at that site. It's planned as a shared research lab and all parties there will have their own little server cabinet. Need to bring at least a little bandwith to each party. A bit hard to explain.
Two of the SFP are SFP+ on the PoE model.
Mh...
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@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
We are talking about getting one of the switches for here (Dallas) because we need more switching capacity and it would be a perfect opportunity to test it out. We only need PoE for the tiniest bit (two access points, two or three phones) so the new switches are perfect.
UniFi or Edge
UniFi, we have Edge in the datacenter already and like it a lot. Have not been able to play with the UniFi switches yet, only the APs.
Then the recently announced, but not yet easily obtained, UniFi 8 port 150W would be perfect.
Yeah I need one of these NOW! I have a project waiting on this to ship!
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LOL there seems to be a lot of FUD in this post
LOL
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When I first read Scott's post, I was like - uh... what's new here? OHHH no POE.. nice!
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@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@thwr said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
So the UniFi lines main feature is central management, just judging from the name? I'm more into Cisco / Juniper / Nortel / Enterasys etc, never dealt with Ubiquiti but I'm open to anything new.
Yes, UniFi would remind you of Meraki, but you host your own controller and don't have to deal with an annual charge for owning the gear.
The UniFi line is also more limited in functionality than EdgeMax when it comes to the routers. I have not compared the switches.
I don't believe this to be true. If it's limited it's because of errors in the current firmware on the USG. Is it as easy to manage as the EdgeRouters? not really because you have to split your setup between GUI and config files depending on how advanced your setup is.
A firmware bug they had in the past was that you couldn't setup the client VPN when you had static IP enabled on the USG. I've heard that this has been fixed, but haven't gone back and changed the install I have to confirm.
I believe that the Unifi is designed to be equal to the EdgeRouter series in capabilities - but again, firmware bugs have and might still be causing differences.
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What's peoples view on EdgeSwitches? Looking at revamping the Server room here which will include 3-4 new switches being needed.
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I've got various EdgeSwitches in production, the only reason why I went for Edge over Unifi was because there were ONLY POE versions of the Unifi switches for double the price.
Now that the Unifi non POE line is out, That's what I'll put in if the performance/features are the same.
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@Breffni-Potter said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
I've got various EdgeSwitches in production, the only reason why I went for Edge over Unifi was because there were ONLY POE versions of the Unifi switches for double the price.
Now that the Unifi non POE line is out, That's what I'll put in if the performance/features are the same.
The main problem I see with that is that the Unifi switches will require the Unifi Controller to manage them, typically. I think they can be managed by CLI, but I don't think that's the intention.
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@Dashrender said
The main problem I see with that is that the Unifi switches will require the Unifi Controller to manage them.
But that's exactly why you'd want them. No other reason. If you want stand alone, don't touch Unifi gear from for any of their products.
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@hobbit666 said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
What's peoples view on EdgeSwitches? Looking at revamping the Server room here which will include 3-4 new switches being needed.
We like them thus far. Been really good.
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@scottalanmiller said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@hobbit666 said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
What's peoples view on EdgeSwitches? Looking at revamping the Server room here which will include 3-4 new switches being needed.
We like them thus far. Been really good.
I have got one on the shelf ready to plug in and try. Just need some time to play.
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@Breffni-Potter said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@Dashrender said
The main problem I see with that is that the Unifi switches will require the Unifi Controller to manage them.
But that's exactly why you'd want them. No other reason. If you want stand alone, don't touch Unifi gear from for any of their products.
Agreed, but you already have a bunch of Edge switches.. I suppose you have to start the conversion at some point, but it just feels weird to have a mix - but I guess it really doesn't matter.
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@Dashrender said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@Breffni-Potter said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@Dashrender said
The main problem I see with that is that the Unifi switches will require the Unifi Controller to manage them.
But that's exactly why you'd want them. No other reason. If you want stand alone, don't touch Unifi gear from for any of their products.
Agreed, but you already have a bunch of Edge switches.. I suppose you have to start the conversion at some point, but it just feels weird to have a mix - but I guess it really doesn't matter.
Not really since the one group has to be managed one by one anyway.
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Anyone have a handy cost comparison chart for the two types of switches?
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@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
Anyone have a handy cost comparison chart for the two types of switches?
Assume POE is off the table. The pricing is almost identical.
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@Breffni-Potter said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
@JaredBusch said in New Ubiquiti Unifi Switches:
Anyone have a handy cost comparison chart for the two types of switches?
Assume POE is off the table. The pricing is almost identical.
Well, I have only bought the PoE models. Because if I need a new switch I get PoE to reduce wall wart clutter from IP phones and Access Points.
I do not buy a PoE switch just because I get phones generally. Most clients have switching hardware that does not need replaced.
