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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Anyone played with or looked into OpenIO? Looks like a really interesting product, but their documentation is super limited and their website, while flashy, lacks all kinds of critical information. The product base is open source but a lot of the features that they tout appear to be commercial only, like NFS, SMB and the web interface? But nothing says super clearly. Their documentation totally ignores all of their features that they promote and acts like they don't exist, which is very confusing.

      But regardless, it looks like some interesting tech to built out your own S3 or Swift style storage platform and it has native connectivity to BackBlaze B2, in theory. Although maybe that is one of those commercial pieces that they don't explain anywhere.

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      • GuillaumeDelaporteG
        GuillaumeDelaporte
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        Hi Scott,

        Nice to e-meet you, and thanks for your interest in our technology.

        Today, most of our documentation is still in our wiki on github: https://github.com/open-io/oio-sds/wiki
        But as you notice in an other post, we are currently building our documentation website here: http://docs.openio.io
        We will populate it and add more content during the following weeks with all the lacking information. Stay tuned!

        Anyway, feel free to ask if you need more information.

        Guillaume.
        Product Manager & Co-Founder @ OpenIO

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @GuillaumeDelaporte
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          @GuillaumeDelaporte said in OpenIO:

          Hi Scott,

          Nice to e-meet you, and thanks for your interest in our technology.

          Today, most of our documentation is still in our wiki on github: https://github.com/open-io/oio-sds/wiki
          But as you notice in an other post, we are currently building our documentation website here: http://docs.openio.io
          We will populate it and add more content during the following weeks with all the lacking information. Stay tuned!

          Anyway, feel free to ask if you need more information.

          Guillaume.
          Product Manager & Co-Founder @ OpenIO

          Thanks, I got a cluster up and running but have not had time to really play with it. You'll notice I have a "how to" on the site for a three node build.

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          • GuillaumeDelaporteG
            GuillaumeDelaporte
            last edited by

            Yes I noticed the other post, I will add a comment too.

            Feel free to send me some questions if you want to learn more about OpenIO.

            Thanks Scott!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @GuillaumeDelaporte
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              @GuillaumeDelaporte Thanks!

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              • V
                Veet
                last edited by Veet

                nice find ... I found some documentation on the OpenIO website itself .... Can't think of any usage scenario for us, or our clients... the minuscule quantum of data we handle does not warrant object based storage... but, very interesting product none-the-less ..

                Thanks Scott

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  OpenIO is really doing some cool stuff. The totally free and open source portion is basically a "build your own S3" style product.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
                    last edited by dafyre

                    I looked at the setup you did... So what kind of use cases would there be for this? It looks as if someone would have to build in an API or something to store objects in it?

                    Edit: To make it work as a file server or something along those lines?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                      I looked at the setup you did... So what kind of use cases would there be for this? It looks as if someone would have to build in an API or something to store objects in it?

                      S3 and Swift are built in. If you don't want to use those, then yes, you'd either need to build your own or buy one.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by dafyre

                        @scottalanmiller said in OpenIO:

                        @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                        I looked at the setup you did... So what kind of use cases would there be for this? It looks as if someone would have to build in an API or something to store objects in it?

                        S3 and Swift are built in. If you don't want to use those, then yes, you'd either need to build your own or buy one.

                        S3, I am familiar with. What is Swift?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                          Edit: To make it work as a file server or something along those lines?

                          If you want it to be an SMB or NFS file server in the old fashion sense, you need their enterprise package. Then it does it automatically.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                            @scottalanmiller said in OpenIO:

                            @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                            I looked at the setup you did... So what kind of use cases would there be for this? It looks as if someone would have to build in an API or something to store objects in it?

                            S3 and Swift are built in. If you don't want to use those, then yes, you'd either need to build your own or buy one.

                            S3, I am familiar with. What is Swift?

                            Swift is the S3 equivalent from OpenStack. Same concept, different interface (SMB vs. NFS, potato po-tah-to)

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              So tools like CloudBerry or CyberDuck will talk to OpenIO no problem right out of the box.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in OpenIO:

                                So tools like CloudBerry or CyberDuck will talk to OpenIO no problem right out of the box.

                                Ah, okay. That makes sense. My first thought jumped to "How could this be used to handle running things like VMs or file shares"... must be my brain locked in on current projects, lol.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in OpenIO:

                                  So tools like CloudBerry or CyberDuck will talk to OpenIO no problem right out of the box.

                                  Ah, okay. That makes sense. My first thought jumped to "How could this be used to handle running things like VMs or file shares"... must be my brain locked in on current projects, lol.

                                  Scale Out is really not a tool for VMs. It's possible, and that's what Swift itself does and Exablox can do that, but Scale Out design and object storage is rarely designed around low latency micro bursts like you want for a typical VM. It's designed for throughput performance and durability and, obviously, scaleability.

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                                  • Minion QueenM
                                    Minion Queen Banned
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                                    Just want to make sure everyone saw @scottalanmiller's how to on OpenIO: https://mangolassi.it/topic/10221/building-openio-on-centos-7

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @Minion Queen
                                      last edited by

                                      @Minion-Queen Yep! I saw. That's what made me ask about it. It looks interesting and all, but for those of us not used to working with Object based stuff, it'll take a while to get up to speed.

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                                      • GuillaumeDelaporteG
                                        GuillaumeDelaporte @Veet
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veet said in OpenIO:

                                        nice find ... I found some documentation on the OpenIO website itself .... Can't think of any usage scenario for us, or our clients... the minuscule quantum of data we handle does not warrant object based storage... but, very interesting product none-the-less ..

                                        Thanks Scott

                                        Hello @Veet,

                                        Thanks for your interest!

                                        OpenIO is an object storage software, and some of our users use it without storing a lot of data.
                                        Why? Because it's also a new way to manage/deal with your storage. For example you can access to data through rest api, which could be very useful to access to it remotely (build your own S3 platform like mentioned by @scottalanmiller).
                                        It's also a way to consolidate your storage usage, by using only one solution for many needs (storage as a service, archive, file sharing...) or many customers if you are a service provider.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
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                                          I take it at present time, that there's no way to "Mount" this like one would do with a file system?

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                                          • GuillaumeDelaporteG
                                            GuillaumeDelaporte @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in OpenIO:

                                            @dafyre said in OpenIO:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in OpenIO:

                                            So tools like CloudBerry or CyberDuck will talk to OpenIO no problem right out of the box.

                                            Ah, okay. That makes sense. My first thought jumped to "How could this be used to handle running things like VMs or file shares"... must be my brain locked in on current projects, lol.

                                            Scale Out is really not a tool for VMs. It's possible, and that's what Swift itself does and Exablox can do that, but Scale Out design and object storage is rarely designed around low latency micro bursts like you want for a typical VM. It's designed for throughput performance and durability and, obviously, scaleability.

                                            Agree with you @scottalanmiller.

                                            @dafyre to give you some examples of use cases suitable for object storage, some of our users built email platform, file sharing system, video streaming, storage as a service, archiving etc...

                                            All these use cases have the same issue. They need performance, durability (replication of data to prevent from data loss) and scalability (meaning that being able to easily grow your platform, to follow your needs, but without any painful migration or task to perform. The scalability needs to be transparent for the application).

                                            Object storage solutions bring that.

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