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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
      last edited by

      @Breffni-Potter

      XenServer with the "enhanced" features like "Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API & SMB support etc" is not free

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

        @Breffni-Potter

        XenServer with the "enhanced" features like "Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API & SMB support etc" is not free

        XenServer is completely open source, there is nothing to be "locked away". Can you provide some evidence to the contrary?

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          Alex Sage @Deleted74295
          last edited by

          @Breffni-Potter said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

          XenOrchestra - From a third party - Limited free and paid for editions.

          Wrong, you can get all the features of XenOrchestra for Free (you simply have to install from source)

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403

            Look at Chapter 3 on page 5 of this pdf
            https://docs.citrix.com/content/dam/docs/en-us/xenserver/xenserver-7-0/downloads/xenserver-7-0-installation-guide.pdf

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

              @DustinB3403

              Look at Chapter 3 on page 5 of this pdf
              https://docs.citrix.com/content/dam/docs/en-us/xenserver/xenserver-7-0/downloads/xenserver-7-0-installation-guide.pdf

              That is the Citrix supported version which is XenServer, which is completely open source. And has access to all of the features mentioned in the documentation you've listed.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403

                But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                  @DustinB3403

                  But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                  You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                  The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                    @DustinB3403

                    But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                    You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                    The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

                    Ok, I hear you.

                    1. How is Citrix able to "add" features to the Enterprise edition?
                    2. Are the download bits for the Community edition different from the Citrix edition?
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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                      @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                      @DustinB3403

                      But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                      You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                      The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

                      Ok, I hear you.

                      1. How is Citrix able to "add" features to the Enterprise edition?
                      2. Are the download bits for the Community edition different from the Citrix edition?
                      1. They've released their own version with the "Enterprise" featues. Much like you or I could release our own version of Ubuntu.

                      2. They most certainly are different because Citrix has rolled their own ISO of the XenServer media. With those features baked in.

                      Neither of the above stops someone (Linux Foundation) from releasing the same exact identical ISO's for use by the public.

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                      • olivierO
                        olivier
                        last edited by

                        Some features are only in XenServer Enterprise Edition, like GPU sharing using advanced Intel/Nvidia stuff, some load balancing mess in a dedicated appliance and probably other extra services.

                        Basically, the only thing which is really interesting Citrix is related to XenDesktop/XenApp. For them, XenServer is the "toolbox" able to run the VM which will be, in the end, running your Windows apps remotely.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          /sigh
                          I just realized that I downloaded this like a week ago now and have yet to spin up a test box.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee
                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                            If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?
                            • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                            • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                            • Support for SMB storage
                            • Direct Inspect APIs
                            • Dynamic Workload Balancing
                            • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g
                            • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities
                            • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)
                            • Export Pool Resource Data
                            • In-memory read caching

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                              • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities

                              All, as far as I know. The conversion utility is not part of XS and is not provided with it. That's the only thing that I am aware of on that list not being part of the community package and is an external component anyway.

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                              • olivierO
                                olivier @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by olivier

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?

                                Edited your post and sorted with what I believe is in "free" XenServer vs Enterprise. I'm not 100% sure for everything, but let's say at first sight.

                                Free :

                                • Support for SMB storage
                                • Export Pool Resource Data
                                • Direct Inspect APIs <- I'm not 100% sure about it, didn't checked yet
                                • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)

                                Enterprise:

                                • Dynamic Workload Balancing (via a Citrix Appliance)
                                • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g (well, I don't have the hardware to try it)
                                • In-memory read caching

                                I don't know:

                                • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                                • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                                • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities (probably provided externally, but I think it's free)

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                                • hobbit666H
                                  hobbit666
                                  last edited by

                                  Upgraded my lab server. Just need a 2nd lab server now to play with backup/restore and moving VM's lol

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Can't wait till our lab boxes are back online so that we can get this installed!

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                                    • A
                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller What is the hold up?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                        last edited by

                                        @aaronstuder said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                        @scottalanmiller What is the hold up?

                                        I haven't even heard if it is racked yet or not.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @olivier
                                          last edited by

                                          @olivier said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                          If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?

                                          Edited your post and sorted with what I believe is in "free" XenServer vs Enterprise. I'm not 100% sure for everything, but let's say at first sight.

                                          Free :

                                          • Support for SMB storage
                                          • Export Pool Resource Data
                                          • Direct Inspect APIs <- I'm not 100% sure about it, didn't checked yet
                                          • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)

                                          Enterprise:

                                          • Dynamic Workload Balancing (via a Citrix Appliance)
                                          • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g (well, I don't have the hardware to try it)
                                          • In-memory read caching

                                          I don't know:

                                          • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                                          • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                                          • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities (probably provided externally, but I think it's free)

                                          The vGPU is also available in the community edition.
                                          .
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                                          Ref.

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                                          • F
                                            Francesco Provino
                                            last edited by

                                            So… why can't I use yum to install packages? I've enable the repos, but yum told me that

                                             One of the configured repositories failed (Sconosciuto),
                                            and yum doesn't have enough cached data to continue. At this point the only
                                            safe thing yum can do is fail. There are a few ways to work "fix" this:
                                            
                                             1. Contact the upstream for the repository and get them to fix the problem.
                                            
                                             2. Reconfigure the baseurl/etc. for the repository, to point to a working
                                                upstream. This is most often useful if you are using a newer
                                                distribution release than is supported by the repository (and the
                                                packages for the previous distribution release still work).
                                            
                                             3. Disable the repository, so yum won't use it by default. Yum will then
                                                just ignore the repository until you permanently enable it again or use
                                                --enablerepo for temporary usage:
                                            
                                                    yum-config-manager --disable <repoid>
                                            
                                             4. Configure the failing repository to be skipped, if it is unavailable.
                                                Note that yum will try to contact the repo. when it runs most commands,
                                                so will have to try and fail each time (and thus. yum will be be much
                                                slower). If it is a very temporary problem though, this is often a nice
                                                compromise:
                                            
                                                    yum-config-manager --save --setopt=<repoid>.skip_if_unavailable=true
                                            
                                             Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base/7-2.1511.el7.centos.2.10/x86_64
                                            

                                            Any idea about that?

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