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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

      @aaronstuder said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

      I am upgrading right now.

      How did the upgrade go?

      Do you boot off USB? Did it upgrade your partitions? (AKA, did you have enough space?)

      You can upgrade without using the new partitions, you just lose that added functionality of the larger partition.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said

        You can upgrade without using the new partitions, you just lose that added functionality of the larger partition.

        Right.

        I was just wondering how his upgrade went, and if he used the larger partitions.

        🙂

        I'm probably going to just upgrade it as is.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

          Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API and gobs of GPU updates are the big winers, I think.

          These features are not free.., you need the Enterprise edition.
          Thought you folks said XS was free?

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            Alex Sage @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @FATeknollogee The appliance free version is very limited. If you install from source, you get everything for free 🙂 @DustinB3403 has a guide and a script from @scottalanmiller

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            • DanpD
              Danp @Alex Sage
              last edited by

              @aaronstuder I think y'all are mixing up XS and XO! ☺

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              • Deleted74295D
                Deleted74295 Banned @FATeknollogee
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                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API and gobs of GPU updates are the big winers, I think.

                These features are not free.., you need the Enterprise edition.
                Thought you folks said XS was free?

                XenServer - From Citrix - Free

                XenOrchestra - From a third party - Limited free and paid for editions.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @Deleted74295
                  last edited by

                  @Breffni-Potter

                  XenServer with the "enhanced" features like "Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API & SMB support etc" is not free

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                    @Breffni-Potter

                    XenServer with the "enhanced" features like "Auto-updating Windows drivers, the Direct Inspect API & SMB support etc" is not free

                    XenServer is completely open source, there is nothing to be "locked away". Can you provide some evidence to the contrary?

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                      Alex Sage @Deleted74295
                      last edited by

                      @Breffni-Potter said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                      XenOrchestra - From a third party - Limited free and paid for editions.

                      Wrong, you can get all the features of XenOrchestra for Free (you simply have to install from source)

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403

                        Look at Chapter 3 on page 5 of this pdf
                        https://docs.citrix.com/content/dam/docs/en-us/xenserver/xenserver-7-0/downloads/xenserver-7-0-installation-guide.pdf

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                          @DustinB3403

                          Look at Chapter 3 on page 5 of this pdf
                          https://docs.citrix.com/content/dam/docs/en-us/xenserver/xenserver-7-0/downloads/xenserver-7-0-installation-guide.pdf

                          That is the Citrix supported version which is XenServer, which is completely open source. And has access to all of the features mentioned in the documentation you've listed.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403

                            But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                              @DustinB3403

                              But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                              You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                              The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                @DustinB3403

                                But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                                You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                                The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

                                Ok, I hear you.

                                1. How is Citrix able to "add" features to the Enterprise edition?
                                2. Are the download bits for the Community edition different from the Citrix edition?
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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                  @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  @DustinB3403

                                  But you need the Enterprise edition to get the "added" features

                                  You're missing what I'm saying. There is no difference between XenServer "Basic" and the Enterprise edition. Citrix is no longer developing their own version.

                                  The linux foundation is developing the entire XS system. Which means everything in the Enterprise edition is available in the community edition.

                                  Ok, I hear you.

                                  1. How is Citrix able to "add" features to the Enterprise edition?
                                  2. Are the download bits for the Community edition different from the Citrix edition?
                                  1. They've released their own version with the "Enterprise" featues. Much like you or I could release our own version of Ubuntu.

                                  2. They most certainly are different because Citrix has rolled their own ISO of the XenServer media. With those features baked in.

                                  Neither of the above stops someone (Linux Foundation) from releasing the same exact identical ISO's for use by the public.

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier
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                                    Some features are only in XenServer Enterprise Edition, like GPU sharing using advanced Intel/Nvidia stuff, some load balancing mess in a dedicated appliance and probably other extra services.

                                    Basically, the only thing which is really interesting Citrix is related to XenDesktop/XenApp. For them, XenServer is the "toolbox" able to run the VM which will be, in the end, running your Windows apps remotely.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      /sigh
                                      I just realized that I downloaded this like a week ago now and have yet to spin up a test box.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by FATeknollogee

                                        If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?
                                        • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                                        • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                                        • Support for SMB storage
                                        • Direct Inspect APIs
                                        • Dynamic Workload Balancing
                                        • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g
                                        • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities
                                        • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)
                                        • Export Pool Resource Data
                                        • In-memory read caching

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                          • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities

                                          All, as far as I know. The conversion utility is not part of XS and is not provided with it. That's the only thing that I am aware of on that list not being part of the community package and is an external component anyway.

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by olivier

                                            @FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                            If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?

                                            Edited your post and sorted with what I believe is in "free" XenServer vs Enterprise. I'm not 100% sure for everything, but let's say at first sight.

                                            Free :

                                            • Support for SMB storage
                                            • Export Pool Resource Data
                                            • Direct Inspect APIs <- I'm not 100% sure about it, didn't checked yet
                                            • Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)

                                            Enterprise:

                                            • Dynamic Workload Balancing (via a Citrix Appliance)
                                            • GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g (well, I don't have the hardware to try it)
                                            • In-memory read caching

                                            I don't know:

                                            • Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
                                            • Automatic updating of the Management Agent
                                            • VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities (probably provided externally, but I think it's free)

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