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    • olivierO
      olivier @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller Nope. But nobody here will bet a penny on you if you don't have any income in less than 1 year. Roughly, they understand Internet as a mean to sell shoes.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @olivier said:

        @scottalanmiller We are not in US here. Investors don't believe in this. And a very few succeeded by doing that.

        Basically you just said that your investors don't believe in making money. 🙂

        I think what he said is he wouldn't have any investors if his company wasn't making money. Or at least a model to make money.

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          Alex Sage
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          Sorry @olivier didn't mean to start all of this 😞

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          • olivierO
            olivier @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 This.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              If I may ask @olivier where are you (and presumably your team) from?

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              • olivierO
                olivier @Alex Sage
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                @anonymous no problem, it's interesting I assume (to understand from the "other side").

                In an ideal world, I would like to give XOA for free to anyone. That's just not possible.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @olivier
                  last edited by

                  @olivier said:

                  @anonymous no problem, it's interesting I assume (to understand from the "other side").

                  In an ideal world, I would like to give XOA for free to anyone. That's just not possible.

                  It's possible but you and your team would be very thin... paper thin...

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier said:

                    @anonymous no problem, it's interesting I assume (to understand from the "other side").

                    In an ideal world, I would like to give XOA for free to anyone. That's just not possible.

                    No paper to wipe with kind of thin....

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver Grenoble, France. We found a small team of investors that "helped us" last year, but that's really small amounts of money. But despite that, our growth is not bad, and we continue to focus on great features coming soon!

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @olivier
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                        @olivier when can we expect that "Importing" feature to be released?

                        I really want to test that bit out. 🙂

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @olivier
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                          @olivier said:

                          @coliver Grenoble, France. We found a small team of investors that "helped us" last year, but that's really small amounts of money. But despite that, our growth is not bad, and we continue to focus on great features coming soon!

                          Cool, good to hear. Do you have a feature road map? Or is that something you guys try to keep quiet?

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier @coliver
                            last edited by olivier

                            @coliver Full transparency in our documentation: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/roadmap.html

                            edit: Forever Forward Incremental Backup is not displayed there, but it's for this month. Continuous replication too. And a first beta of our self service portal.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @olivier
                              last edited by

                              @olivier is it possible to setup an online demo of the full solution for people to trial?

                              Obviously you'd need a platform for it, but it might further the customer base for XOA.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @olivier
                                last edited by coliver

                                @olivier said:

                                @coliver Full transparency in our documentation: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/roadmap.html

                                edit: Forever Forward Incremental Backup is not displayed there, but it's for this month. Continuous replication too. And a first beta of our self service portal.

                                Thanks! I'll have to give this a try when I get a chance. Not that I'll be able to pay :(.

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by olivier

                                  @DustinB3403 That's something already crossed my mind. But it's not that easy to do. You can't emulate a XenServer infrastructure. So we got two choices: a fake interface or a real stuff but with limited rights to avoid bad things ^^ Again, can't be everywhere, not a priority.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @olivier
                                    last edited by

                                    @olivier Just a thought that popped into my mind. It would certainly help to resolve some of these questions.

                                    🙂

                                    Of course there's maintaining this environment, ensuring it's appropriately locked down (permissions) etc.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @olivier
                                      last edited by

                                      @olivier said:

                                      @scottalanmiller Nope. But nobody here will bet a penny on you if you don't have any income in less than 1 year. Roughly, they understand Internet as a mean to sell shoes.

                                      Then explain it as "selling more shoes at lower cost to sell" instead of "selling fewer shoes with a larger marketing investment."

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        If I may ask @olivier where are you (and presumably your team) from?

                                        They are in France 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @olivier said:

                                          @scottalanmiller We are not in US here. Investors don't believe in this. And a very few succeeded by doing that.

                                          Basically you just said that your investors don't believe in making money. 🙂

                                          I think what he said is he wouldn't have any investors if his company wasn't making money. Or at least a model to make money.

                                          Good investors, the big ones, make their big money by investing when a company is small and betting big. If you are investing in a company already profitable, your opportunities for big wins are small.

                                          What he is explaining is that they really only have traditional investors there, and this is a well known European problem, they lack the venture capital ecosystem that drives the US economy.

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller We are in a niche market. And lower cost is only possible if it's scalable. But scalable means more complex pricing, for us and for customers. There is no "trivial" way ^^

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