Unsolved Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line
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@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
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@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
cannot find anywhereyeah, they basically don't exist
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
cannot find anywhereyeah, they basically don't exist
@scottalanmiller Any recommendations for your new "go to" product(s) for this? MicroTik? Pfsense/Netgate? Something else?
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@JaredBusch Yeah, that sucks, but I'm holding out hope. I've actually been thinking about getting back into use pfSense on Qotom.
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@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch Yeah, that sucks, but I'm holding out hope. I've actually been thinking about getting back into use pfSense on Qotom.
I don't like how Netgate has handled it since they got control of it.
The open source version is still open. Just do not like Netgate's mentality.
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@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch Yeah, that sucks, but I'm holding out hope. I've actually been thinking about getting back into use pfSense on Qotom.
If you have concerns about pfSense, you could also check out OPNsense. I'm not sure if they're from the same vendor or not, but I've used both in production and currently using OPNSense for my home lab.
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@AdamF said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@scottalanmiller Any recommendations for your new "go to" product(s) for this? MicroTik? Pfsense/Netgate? Something else?
Pfsense, opnsense, vyos and other x86 firewalls are not in the same price range as a cheap edgerouter - when you factor in needed hardware.
You're in the $200-or-more range for these options with the lowest grade hardware. $1000 and up, if you want rackmount enterprise grade hardware.
I've used this kind of Supermicro hardware for pfsense on many occasions. It uses Intel's low power CPUs, so TDP like 15-20W. Easily mounted in a network rack next to switches, patch panels and whatnot.
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@AdamF said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
cannot find anywhereyeah, they basically don't exist
@scottalanmiller Any recommendations for your new "go to" product(s) for this? MicroTik? Pfsense/Netgate? Something else?
Mostly we wait for Ubiquiti when we can. For customers we are buying in advance when possible and waiting when we can't and rarely are we stuck needing something we can't get. For my own businesses, we aren't in the US and we don't have a shortage of gear. We can still get it fine, it's just a US (or probably US and Canada) internal supply chain issue, not a global one.
MicroTik has always been our fallback devices, so we didn't have to find anything new. They are perfectly good.
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These brands have switch and Poe switch, Ruijie also has a router.
https://www.ruijienetworks.com/
https://planet.com.tw/
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@dagors said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
These brands have switch and Poe switch, Ruijie also has a router.
https://www.ruijienetworks.com/
https://planet.com.tw/
could be a good alternativeLiterally don't know either. Anyone used them?
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BTW... Ubiquiti just reported they are cancelling that whole line..... and cancelling open PO's I have for customers of mine going back over a year and a half........sigh.............
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@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
BTW... Ubiquiti just reported they are cancelling that whole line..... and cancelling open PO's I have for customers of mine going back over a year and a half........sigh.............
Not going to say that I am surprised. Do you have a public link available?
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@JaredBusch not yet. I will forward to you if I get one.
this came through the distribution channel to me. -
@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch not yet. I will forward to you if I get one.
this came through the distribution channel to me.I assume that the UISP line is continuing? I was already assuming that it was going to replace the EdgeMAX line.
The only problem I have with the UISP line is that the hardware is all 27V POE only.
That line might have other issues, but I have not bought any yet.
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@JaredBusch so far that I see yes.... but Ubiquiti has made a ton of promises this past year and failed. I dont know how they will survive now that they literally have to say "thanks but no thanks" to literally millions of open PO's that they accepted over the past year and a half. That is NO exaggerations. I am not a stockmarket expert.. but at 350 a share right now..... wouldnt this failure make people sell like mad? No wonder it isnt being crowed around the world publically now.
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@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
BTW... Ubiquiti just reported they are cancelling that whole line..... and cancelling open PO's I have for customers of mine going back over a year and a half........sigh.............
Didn't the guy that was the engineer behind the edgerouter OS quit two years ago or something, and all major development work more or less stopped after that?
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@Pete-S first time I am hearing that . Interesting.
I mean - they make a great product but their customer and channel support service has always been non-existent. That model can only work for so long. -
@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@Pete-S first time I am hearing that . Interesting.
I mean - they make a great product but their customer and channel support service has always been non-existent. That model can only work for so long.It's common to see in companies that are not actually the real designers behind their products.
They buy an already designed product from an ODM manufacturer (Original Design Manufacturer). The buyer can make minor customizations to the product and have it labeled however they want but it's the manufacturer's design and intellectual property.
A tell tale sign is when models doesn't have a unified look through out the product line. It's because the products are designed and manufactured by different companies.
Anyway, the company can only make a half assed attempt to support it because it's not designed in-house. After a while they'll find another product from another ODM manufacturer and go with that instead. So no continuity.
I don't know if that is the case with Ubiquiti but some products in their line sure looks like it.
Looking at the number of employees working at Ubiquiti versus their revenue, also suggests that (most?) of their products are not designed in-house. That's just speculation of course.
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@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
BTW... Ubiquiti just reported they are cancelling that whole line..... and cancelling open PO's I have for customers of mine going back over a year and a half........sigh.............
What the heck? That's a huge amount of infrastructure!
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@Pete-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
I don't know if that is the case with Ubiquiti but some products in their line sure looks like it.
Looking at the number of employees working at Ubiquiti versus their revenue, also suggests that (most?) of their products are not designed in-house. That's just speculation of course.Well the Edge line, and this is me guessing, is likely third party hardware that they buy (that's pretty easy) and they basically use an open source OS barely modified. They were half public about that when they started, so it kinda made sense with that line. No idea if they continued that with Unifi and others.
