Unsolved Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line
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So 2022 is almost done and Ubiquiti never has stock of EdgeMax gear.
I need to move on.
What do you all recommend today?
If I need a NGFW because “compliance” I go with Watchguard.
But for everything I have used EdgeMax for so long, I don’t have a solid grasp on options.
A manufacturer that make switches and a basic router is probably the best choice, but I am not tied to anything at this point.
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I don't know if Mikrotik is in stock for you, but they have routers in the same low price range as Ubiquiti.
We've been looking at the more
advancedpowerful models but haven't actually done any testing yet.It seems that their models run RouterOS and have all features unlocked regardless of the cost of the unit. They do have a couple of different generations of Router OS though.
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@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
So 2022 is almost done and Ubiquiti never has stock of EdgeMax gear.
I need to move on.
What do you all recommend today?
If I need a NGFW because “compliance” I go with Watchguard.
But for everything I have used EdgeMax for so long, I don’t have a solid grasp on options.
A manufacturer that make switches and a basic router is probably the best choice, but I am not tied to anything at this point.
I am also in the same boat. I really like Ubiquiti EdgeMax line, but the stock levels equaling near zero this year is just terrible. I need another "go to" simple device like the EdgeMax line that I can use/recommend.
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+1 for Mikrotik for that use case. It gets a ton of hate in small enterprise but for shops that were/are using Ubiquiti, it's a great router option. It's super inexpensive and has plenty of features. They do also make switches.
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@bbigford said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
+1 for Mikrotik for that use case. It gets a ton of hate in small enterprise but for shops that were/are using Ubiquiti, it's a great router option. It's super inexpensive and has plenty of features. They do also make switches.
I've heard the same for TPLink.
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@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
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@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
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@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
cannot find anywhereyeah, they basically don't exist
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
cannot find anywhereyeah, they basically don't exist
@scottalanmiller Any recommendations for your new "go to" product(s) for this? MicroTik? Pfsense/Netgate? Something else?
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@JaredBusch Yeah, that sucks, but I'm holding out hope. I've actually been thinking about getting back into use pfSense on Qotom.
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@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch Yeah, that sucks, but I'm holding out hope. I've actually been thinking about getting back into use pfSense on Qotom.
I don't like how Netgate has handled it since they got control of it.
The open source version is still open. Just do not like Netgate's mentality.
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@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch Yeah, that sucks, but I'm holding out hope. I've actually been thinking about getting back into use pfSense on Qotom.
If you have concerns about pfSense, you could also check out OPNsense. I'm not sure if they're from the same vendor or not, but I've used both in production and currently using OPNSense for my home lab.
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@AdamF said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@scottalanmiller Any recommendations for your new "go to" product(s) for this? MicroTik? Pfsense/Netgate? Something else?
Pfsense, opnsense, vyos and other x86 firewalls are not in the same price range as a cheap edgerouter - when you factor in needed hardware.
You're in the $200-or-more range for these options with the lowest grade hardware. $1000 and up, if you want rackmount enterprise grade hardware.
I've used this kind of Supermicro hardware for pfsense on many occasions. It uses Intel's low power CPUs, so TDP like 15-20W. Easily mounted in a network rack next to switches, patch panels and whatnot.
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@AdamF said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@krzykat said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch I hope they catch back up. I see they now have the ER-x in stock that hasn't been around for a while. Hoping they get the rest of their supply chain worked out. I did buy a dozen just in case though.
I need an ER-4 and an EdgeSwitc 24 POE 250
cannot find anywhereyeah, they basically don't exist
@scottalanmiller Any recommendations for your new "go to" product(s) for this? MicroTik? Pfsense/Netgate? Something else?
Mostly we wait for Ubiquiti when we can. For customers we are buying in advance when possible and waiting when we can't and rarely are we stuck needing something we can't get. For my own businesses, we aren't in the US and we don't have a shortage of gear. We can still get it fine, it's just a US (or probably US and Canada) internal supply chain issue, not a global one.
MicroTik has always been our fallback devices, so we didn't have to find anything new. They are perfectly good.
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These brands have switch and Poe switch, Ruijie also has a router.
https://www.ruijienetworks.com/
https://planet.com.tw/
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@dagors said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
These brands have switch and Poe switch, Ruijie also has a router.
https://www.ruijienetworks.com/
https://planet.com.tw/
could be a good alternativeLiterally don't know either. Anyone used them?
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BTW... Ubiquiti just reported they are cancelling that whole line..... and cancelling open PO's I have for customers of mine going back over a year and a half........sigh.............
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@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
BTW... Ubiquiti just reported they are cancelling that whole line..... and cancelling open PO's I have for customers of mine going back over a year and a half........sigh.............
Not going to say that I am surprised. Do you have a public link available?
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@JaredBusch not yet. I will forward to you if I get one.
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@Yonah-S said in Alternative to never in stock Ubiquiti EdgeMax line:
@JaredBusch not yet. I will forward to you if I get one.
this came through the distribution channel to me.I assume that the UISP line is continuing? I was already assuming that it was going to replace the EdgeMAX line.
The only problem I have with the UISP line is that the hardware is all 27V POE only.
That line might have other issues, but I have not bought any yet.