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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @gjacobse said:

      Using a UPS is a short term option. In some cases services need to be maintained longer -

      Are there best practices for deploying a UPS with a generator?

      When designing with a backup solution, compatibility between a UPS and Generator is usually one of the biggest issues. It can be complex and confusing.

      If the generator isn't sized large enough, it may not be able to hold voltage and frequency within input tolerances when the UPS comes online. The UPS will view the generator as an unstable power source and never come off of battery. The UPS will have a set input voltage and frequency window; if you go outside the window the UPS will go on battery. You can get into a vicious cycle of going on and off of battery until your UPS crashes and your IT load are dropped.

      Several reasons why the generator would be an issue:
      • The generator is like a car engine. As it maintains RPMs, it maintains frequency. When the UPS transfers from battery to generator power, the engine may slow down a bit. You can compare this to driving a stick shift while stopped at a red light headed uphill. When you dump the clutch, if you aren't giving it enough gas (or if you are driving a pinto) the RPMs are going to drop down.
      • Just like in the automotive world, the bigger the engine (generator here) the more it can handle the dumping of the clutch as the UPS comes off of battery. Bigger (aside from your budget number) is better
      • Natural Gas is usually the least combustible fuel out there, and generators that run off of NG are slow to respond and may need to be sized larger than propane counterparts. Diesel is best, but usually predominant in the world of 50kW and larger, but it may present a lot more budget and maintenance issues if you don't have a maintenance program or run them weekly, etc.
      • When looking at smaller generators (30kW and below) look at the governor. Electronic governors are quick to respond, mechanical governors are not and may add headaches.
      The features of the UPS can also impact you configuration. Most single phase UPS products (20kVA and below) will come back online all at once. Larger three phase UPS products will have "current walk-in" and will slowly transition from battery anywhere from 5-60 seconds. As for sizing solutions with generators under 30kVA for single phase UPS applications, I usually lean on the err of caution being a manufacturer. We recommend the same if you are responsible as the decision maker.
      • Generator should be sized 2 times the total load (UPS, A/C, an everything else) for NG and mechanical governor
      • 1.5 times the load will work if you have a new generator, Propane or Diesel and an electronic governor.
      • Any mix from the above puts you somewhere in the middle of 1.5 to 2 times.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Eaton AMA @10am (est)

      All this talk of power outages and generators makes me all warm and fuzzy. We do track power outages daily via our Blackout Tracker: www.eaton.com/blackouttracker. You can fill out a form to submit an outage report. Mention, mango and your t-shirt size and we'll send one out to you.

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @IRJ Very comparable when it comes to price and functionality. We do offer a 3-year warranty that covers the entire UPS and the battery: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/3S.aspx?cx=3

      Typical desktop models:
      Eaton 3S: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/3S.aspx?cx=3
      Eaton 5S: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Backup-Power-UPS/5S.aspx?cx=3

      The 5S has a nice LCD screen.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @nadnerB said:

      What is your representation like in the Australia/New Zealand region?

      • Do you have an office or just minions that sell stuff (Channel partners?)

      We have a full network of channel partners in ANZ and our main office is in Sydney (complete with product management, sales, tech support, etc.). We work with them on a regular basis. http://powerquality.eaton.com/australia/Default.asp?CX=22 Our website is global though you may need to choose your country first.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Eaton AMA @10am (est)

      @nadnerB said:

      Well, I'd say that it was successful.

      Yes, we enjoyed it!!

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: Remotely Controlled PDU

      Chiming in here that Eaton has a full suite of rack PDUs as well: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Power-Distribution/ePDU/

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Christmas Tree or however you celebrate

      Here's our tree. I've added some Game of Thrones flavor.1_1449622958172_image.jpeg 0_1449622958171_image.jpeg

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @DustinB3403 said:

      Is EATON going to be at next years MangoCon? Curious to see what you might bring and be able to demo.

      That's a great idea! Inquiring minds want to know.

      We'll need the pricing and info so we can make that determination.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • Interesting election we've got this year

      We've launched our latest contest and you get to pick the winner! In Desk Toy Decision 2016 we're pitting three new desk toys against each other to win the election to join Devil Duck and the other Eaton toys in our campaign.

      Visit http://www.switchon.eaton.com/desk-toy-decision to view each candidate's platform video, ask 'em tough questions, and take our candidate matchmaker quiz. Then cast your vote for Molly Mite, Hippo or Zen Frog. If the candidate you vote for wins you can win it. You can vote every day until polls close on April 30.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Eaton AMA Tomorrow

      @scottalanmiller

      This should work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8Z3886VvU

      posted in Announcements
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @molly said:

      @BRRABill for one thing - our people love being a part of communities like SW and now ML. thanks for having us! we've learned a ton by engaging with the individuals...and I think the users appreciate the engagement on the vendor side of things!

      In addition to having knowledgeable people who are engaged, we have a full suite of quality products. We're Eaton now but we have a few decades of power management experience through acquired companies, including Deltec, Best Power, Powerware and Exide Electronics.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Interesting election we've got this year

      @RojoLoco How about you keep the Devil Duck USB and I'll just send you a real Devil Duck to keep him company? You can ping me with your mailing address ([email protected])

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @gbeyhaut said:

      @mdecamp and Mike worked for all of them!

      I had more hair when I worked for those companies.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @molly said:

      @nadnerB our founder...Joseph Eaton 🙂

      Back in 1911!

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @JaredBusch said:

      Eaton is a huge company now with a lot more products than UPS devices.

      But as most of that is power related, the SMB IT managers have no real use for it.

      What other products does Eaton have that would be good for the SMB IT people to know about.

      Rack PDUs, rack/enclosures/cages, airflow management, power management software, environmental monitoring, maintenance services, remote monitoring, surge protection, power factor correction, etc.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @coliver said:

      @mdecamp said:

      @gjacobse said:

      Using a UPS is a short term option. In some cases services need to be maintained longer -

      Are there best practices for deploying a UPS with a generator?

      When designing with a backup solution, compatibility between a UPS and Generator is usually one of the biggest issues. It can be complex and confusing.

      If the generator isn't sized large enough, it may not be able to hold voltage and frequency within input tolerances when the UPS comes online. The UPS will view the generator as an unstable power source and never come off of battery. The UPS will have a set input voltage and frequency window; if you go outside the window the UPS will go on battery. You can get into a vicious cycle of going on and off of battery until your UPS crashes and your IT load are dropped.

      Several reasons why the generator would be an issue:
      • The generator is like a car engine. As it maintains RPMs, it maintains frequency. When the UPS transfers from battery to generator power, the engine may slow down a bit. You can compare this to driving a stick shift while stopped at a red light headed uphill. When you dump the clutch, if you aren't giving it enough gas (or if you are driving a pinto) the RPMs are going to drop down.
      • Just like in the automotive world, the bigger the engine (generator here) the more it can handle the dumping of the clutch as the UPS comes off of battery. Bigger (aside from your budget number) is better
      • Natural Gas is usually the least combustible fuel out there, and generators that run off of NG are slow to respond and may need to be sized larger than propane counterparts. Diesel is best, but usually predominant in the world of 50kW and larger, but it may present a lot more budget and maintenance issues if you don't have a maintenance program or run them weekly, etc.
      • When looking at smaller generators (30kW and below) look at the governor. Electronic governors are quick to respond, mechanical governors are not and may add headaches.
      The features of the UPS can also impact you configuration. Most single phase UPS products (20kVA and below) will come back online all at once. Larger three phase UPS products will have "current walk-in" and will slowly transition from battery anywhere from 5-60 seconds. As for sizing solutions with generators under 30kVA for single phase UPS applications, I usually lean on the err of caution being a manufacturer. We recommend the same if you are responsible as the decision maker.
      • Generator should be sized 2 times the total load (UPS, A/C, an everything else) for NG and mechanical governor
      • 1.5 times the load will work if you have a new generator, Propane or Diesel and an electronic governor.
      • Any mix from the above puts you somewhere in the middle of 1.5 to 2 times.

      This was an amazing explanation and answered a few of my questions. Thank you.

      Full disclosure is that I stole this post from @windso

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @dafyre

      @dafyre said:

      Are any of your PDUs capable of being remotely managed? So we can power stuff on / off remotely?

      Yes. Here's a closer look at our third generation of rack PDUs: http://powerquality.eaton.com/Products-services/Power-Distribution/ePDU/interact/,

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: EATON AMA

      @Jason said:

      Do you offer and trade in discounts for large UPSs to switch to Eaton? We currently have Liebert 3 Phase UPS systems.

      We don't have a formal program--too many variables to factor in for the larger systems. We can certainly connect you with someone local to discuss and/or provide a quote.

      posted in IT Discussion
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