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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      There has been discussion on various threads about this topic, so I thought it would be good to give it its own area.

      Basically, we have been directing a lot of people to install XS, and install it on USB. However, XS does a good deal of writing to the boot disk, and that cannot happen for the safety of the USB boot device.

      I think it would be prudent to figure out exactly WHAT it writes, and how to stop it.

      QUESTION 1:
      How do we determine what is being written? Is there a way to track what XS is writing?

      I have found these two articles, both of which talk about some of the files it does write. But how do we know these are the only files being written?

      http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/xenserver-root-disk-maintenance.html

      http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/log-rotation-and-syslog-forwarding.html

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
        last edited by

        With remote syslog turned ON, these are still some of the files that appear to be writing to the disk.

        This is from /var/log from today.

        -rw------- 1 root root 552045 Jul 8 11:54 daemon.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 36569171 Jul 8 11:54 xensource.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 6993911 Jul 8 11:54 xenstored-access.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 3314999 Jul 8 11:53 secure
        -rw------- 1 root root 1651148 Jul 8 11:53 audit.log
        -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38273316 Jul 8 11:53 lastlog
        -rw------- 1 root root 1092509 Jul 8 11:53 SMlog
        -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 24960 Jul 8 11:53 wtmp
        -rw------- 1 root root 39140 Jul 8 11:52 xcp-rrdd-plugins.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 7910 Jul 8 11:50 cron
        -rw------- 1 root root 25237 Jul 8 11:49 user.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 2197 Jul 8 11:27 kern.log
        drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 8 11:27 blktap
        -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 8 04:02 boot.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 0 Jul 8 04:02 crit.log
        drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 8 04:02 xen
        -rw------- 1 root root 0 Jul 8 04:02 maillog
        -rw------- 1 root root 0 Jul 8 04:02 messages
        -rw------- 1 root root 0 Jul 8 04:02 spooler
        -rw------- 1 root root 25430 Jul 8 04:02 cron.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 1397607 Jul 8 04:02 daemon.log.1
        -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 8 04:02 interface-rename.log
        -rw------- 1 root root 21282 Jul 8 04:02 user.log.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 17914819 Jul 8 04:01 xenstored-access.log.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 2878021 Jul 8 04:01 audit.log.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 6119984 Jul 8 04:01 secure.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 1438123 Jul 8 04:01 SMlog.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 96116 Jul 8 03:57 xcp-rrdd-plugins.log.1
        -rw------- 1 root root 54918053 Jul 8 00:39 xensource.log.1
        drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 8 00:00 sa

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          You have to not just turn on remote, but stop it from writing locally.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said

            You have to not just turn on remote, but stop it from writing locally.

            Right. I am going to try the steps they suggested in that article. Perhaps it will work this time.

            Well, step one, already an issue...

            This stpe
            "Finally, select "OK" and the stand-alone XenServer (or pool) will update its Syslog configuration, or more specifically, /var/lib/syslog.conf. "

            /var/lib/syslog.conf is no longer there

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by BRRABill

              I think that file has been replaced with /etc/rsyslog.d/xenserver.conf

              Which reads...

              # Suppress duplicate messages and report "Last line repeated n times"
              $RepeatedMsgReduction on
              
              # Don't rate-limit messages - this isn't the right way to go about 
              # reducing log size!
              $IMUXSockRateLimitInterval 0
              $SystemLogRateLimitInterval 0
              
              # Ensure critical and higher level errors are logged synchronously.
              *.crit;mail.none;authpriv.none;cron.none		/var/log/crit.log
              
              # Log by facility.
              kern.*							-/var/log/kern.log
              daemon.*						-/var/log/daemon.log
              user.*							-/var/log/user.log
              
              # The authpriv file has restricted access.
              authpriv.*						-/var/log/secure
              
              # Log all the mail messages in one place.
              mail.*							-/var/log/maillog
              
              # Log cron stuff
              cron.*							-/var/log/cron
              
              # Save boot messages also to boot.log
              local7.*						/var/log/boot.log
              
              # Xapi rbac audit log echoes to syslog local6
              local6.*						-/var/log/audit.log
              
              # Xapi, xenopsd echo to syslog local5
              local5.*						-/var/log/xensource.log
              
              # V6d echo to syslog local4
              local4.*						-/var/log/v6d.log
              
              # xenstore access to syslog local3
              local3.info						-/var/log/xenstored-access.log
              
              # Storage Manager to syslog local2
              local2.*						-/var/log/SMlog
              
              # xcp-rrdd-plugins (info and above) to local0
              local0.info						-/var/log/xcp-rrdd-plugins.log
              
              # ignore default rules
              
              *.* @10.0.4.26
              *.* ~
              
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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by BRRABill

                If you turn off remote logging, this is what you get at the bottom...

                # ignore default rules
                
                *.* ~
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                • DanpD
                  Danp
                  last edited by

                  Found this: http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/378269-xenserver-7-varlogmessages/

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    Another thing to ponder...

                    With XS7, there is a separate 4GB log partition.

                    Is there a way to forward that elsewhere?

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @Danp
                      last edited by

                      @Danp said

                      Found this: http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/378269-xenserver-7-varlogmessages/

                      Yeah, I found that, too.

                      But I am wondering...is that the file that tells all the possible logs, and where they write to?

                      And can we tell if anything else is writing?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        Does the link here not already address this issue?

                        "I mentioned before that Syslog can forward messages to other hosts. Furthermore, it can forward Syslog messages to other hosts without writing a copy of the log to local disk. What this means is that a single XenServer or a pool of XenServers can send their log data to a "Syslog Aggregator". "

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          Followed by

                          Debian Syslog Server and Centralized RSYSLOG Server monitoring

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            Or even this last guide on the very same page, All-In-One-Guide.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said

                              Does the link here not already address this issue?

                              "I mentioned before that Syslog can forward messages to other hosts. Furthermore, it can forward Syslog messages to other hosts without writing a copy of the log to local disk. What this means is that a single XenServer or a pool of XenServers can send their log data to a "Syslog Aggregator". "

                              No, because further in the article, you will see...

                              "Certain logs will still continue to record Syslog on the host, so it may be desirable to edit /var/lib/syslog.conf and add comments to lines where a "-/var/log/some_filename" is specified as lines with "@x.x.x.x" dictate to forward to the Syslog aggregator."

                              And in XS7, that file has been totally replaced with the one I posted, which has different syntax.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill Wouldn't the same essentially apply to the log file you have there?

                                Your file in /etc/rsyslog.d/xenserver.conf:

                                # Save boot messages also to boot.log
                                local7.*	
                                

                                Would be changed to:

                                # Save boot messages also to boot.log
                                local7.*      @your-syslog-ip
                                #local7.*
                                
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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  And in XS6.5 the syslog location is stored at

                                  /etc/syslog.conf
                                  

                                  Which still has the same flags.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403

                                    Well, in 6.5, the syntax was as follows...

                                    # Save boot messages also to boot.log
                                    local7.*             @10.0.0.1
                                    # local7.*         /var/log/boot.log
                                    

                                    In this new version, it just puts the IP at the bottom.

                                    @scottalanmiller mentioned, as I think you did as well, that I should just redirect /var/log somewhere else.

                                    Being a little fresh in Linux partitioning, I most post a thread for help with that.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                                      last edited by DustinB3403

                                      @BRRABill Why are you not commenting out the records as needed and adding them under each field in order?

                                      You can edit the file (on XS7) with:

                                      sudo nano /etc/rsyslog.d/xenserver.conf
                                      

                                      Or on XS 6.5

                                      sudo nano /etc/syslog.conf
                                      
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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by DustinB3403

                                        I'll follow the setup on my lab tonight that is posted in the first link, and make all of the changes on XS6.5.

                                        Then I'll see how it performs. from there I'll tear down my installation and repeat for XS7.

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                                        • DanpD
                                          Danp
                                          last edited by Danp

                                          Here's one to watch from the Citrix forums: http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/379454-booting-xenserver-off-usb-safe/

                                          P.S. Which one of you guys wrote this? 😉

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Danp
                                            last edited by

                                            @Danp said in Stopping XenServer From Writing To A USB Boot Drive:

                                            Here's one to watch from the Citrix forums: http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/379454-booting-xenserver-off-usb-safe/

                                            P.S. Which one of you guys wrote this? 😉

                                            That was me.

                                            Those guys know the nuts and bolts of XS, though they aren't real responsive to threads all the time.

                                            On ML that would have have 500 posts already and been forked 6 times. 🙂

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