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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

      http://www.engadget.com/2016/06/04/keepass-wont-fix-security-hole-due-to-ads/

      Password app developer overlooks security hole to preserve ads
      KeePass wants to improve security, but money wins in the short term.

      So my question is, what is a good open source solution? I have seriously been contemplating switching from LastPass to KeePass.

      Syncing to all devices is a pain but getting easier and I was about to take a new serious look at switching.

      I was too, but for a different reason. lastpass is incompatible with our company's EHR - so I was going to look at KeePass, I guess not now.

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        Jason Banned
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        I was too, mostly because if last pass is hack. Kee pass you have the file. I use keepass at work, but it has no ads in it..

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Jason
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          @Jason said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

          I was too, mostly because if last pass is hack. Kee pass you have the file. I use keepass at work, but it has no ads in it..

          You can backup your Lastpass file too.

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            Jason Banned
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            1Password is something I've been considering too. The $70 one time version not the subscription

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            • thwrT
              thwr
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              Seriously, are we talking about the same KeePass2? Never saw an advertisement in the application. Or is it something in the background, like usage tracking?

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              • thwrT
                thwr
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                Ok, checked the article, it's about the updater... Still a problem, but no need for an immediate switch IMHO.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @thwr
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                  @thwr said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                  Ok, checked the article, it's about the updater... Still a problem, but no need for an immediate switch IMHO.

                  As someone contemplating switching to it though, I no longer wish to.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                    @thwr said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                    Ok, checked the article, it's about the updater... Still a problem, but no need for an immediate switch IMHO.

                    As someone contemplating switching to it though, I no longer wish to.

                    Wouldn't do it either in this case, but there should be no real risk for existing users as long as you don't use the auto updater.

                    Anyway, please report back when you found something, FOSS preferred.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr
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                      Security issues in auto updaters are a big problem. Most of them are prone to man in the middle attacks because they just don't use encryption and / or checksums.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @thwr
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                        @thwr said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                        Security issues in auto updaters are a big problem. Most of them are prone to man in the middle attacks because they just don't use encryption and / or checksums.

                        This is especially troubling on mobile devices, something I would expect you to want this type of software the most. yeah this is a pretty big problem - sadly, one I'm guessing it's had since day one. or when they decided to do whatever they do with advertising.

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                          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                          @thwr said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                          Security issues in auto updaters are a big problem. Most of them are prone to man in the middle attacks because they just don't use encryption and / or checksums.

                          This is especially troubling on mobile devices, something I would expect you to want this type of software the most. yeah this is a pretty big problem - sadly, one I'm guessing it's had since day one. or when they decided to do whatever they do with advertising.

                          Less of an issue on mobile devices the respective app stores handle it and it's much more secure

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Jason
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                            @Jason said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                            @Dashrender said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                            @thwr said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                            Security issues in auto updaters are a big problem. Most of them are prone to man in the middle attacks because they just don't use encryption and / or checksums.

                            This is especially troubling on mobile devices, something I would expect you to want this type of software the most. yeah this is a pretty big problem - sadly, one I'm guessing it's had since day one. or when they decided to do whatever they do with advertising.

                            Less of an issue on mobile devices the respective app stores handle it and it's much more secure

                            Good point.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                I think KeePass with Chocolatey would bypass the insecure updater.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  What about this one...

                                  https://www.keepassx.org/

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    How does the HTTP update check create ad revenue? I haven't seen that explained.

                                    The program won't update itself, you have to manually go to sourceforge.net and the developer's point that digital signatures are more secure than just using HTTPS anyway seems to make sense.

                                    I don't see the issue. I'm happy to continue to use Keepass.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                      @Carnival-Boy said in KeePass dev refuses to patch security hole in favor of ad revenue:

                                      How does the HTTP update check create ad revenue? I haven't seen that explained.

                                      Lost on that one here, too. I've never seen any ads associated with Keepass.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        If anyone is worried the MD5 and SHA1 match.

                                        0_1465212618302_chrome_2016-06-06_07-27-14.png

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
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                                          I find this quite sad, actually. I've been a happy Keepass user for a while now... Guess I'll check out some of the others now. KeePassX looks pretty good.

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                                            Alex Sage @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre Once again, the problem is the updater, not the program it self. I think at the end of the day, it will be fixed.

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