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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @anthonyh
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      @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

      @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

      @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

      @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

      http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_PCI_Passthrough

      Hmm. This looks intimidating (but that has never stopped me). I wonder how well this would translate to the XenServer world though. What would happen when I deploy patches? Hmm. Something to check out though.

      DO you need pathces wtih XS 7? I've not looked. It is very current, though.

      Holy crap XenServer 7! I feel like I JUST upgraded to 6.5. I'll need to investigate what new features XS 7 brings...

      Ha ha. Yeah. This is the "real" update that we have been waiting for post-Citrix era. Lots of the Citrix cruft has been removed and it is dramatically more up to date. NTG Lab has three XS 7 machines slated to come online soon (just waiting on the datacenter to get them ready for us.) I think that you'll want to look there, it very likely will make life a lot easier.

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      • anthonyhA
        anthonyh @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

        @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

        @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

        @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

        @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

        http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_PCI_Passthrough

        Hmm. This looks intimidating (but that has never stopped me). I wonder how well this would translate to the XenServer world though. What would happen when I deploy patches? Hmm. Something to check out though.

        DO you need pathces wtih XS 7? I've not looked. It is very current, though.

        Holy crap XenServer 7! I feel like I JUST upgraded to 6.5. I'll need to investigate what new features XS 7 brings...

        Ha ha. Yeah. This is the "real" update that we have been waiting for post-Citrix era. Lots of the Citrix cruft has been removed and it is dramatically more up to date. NTG Lab has three XS 7 machines slated to come online soon (just waiting on the datacenter to get them ready for us.) I think that you'll want to look there, it very likely will make life a lot easier.

        Will do for sure!!!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Ah check this out... XO was talking about this working but just missing from the XO interface some time ago: https://xen-orchestra.com/forum/topic/25/pci-passthrough-add-ability-to-do-this-from-the-web-interface

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            @anthonyh First, you need to ignore anyone telling you to switch your PBX. There is nothing wrong with PBX in a Flash. In fact it is a better solution than FreePBX from the point of view that PBX in a Flash uses 100% standard repos. FreePBX uses custom repos.

            Functionally they are identical.

            On to your problem. Let me ask you this question.

            The custom IVR thing uses the PCI card for what exactly? It sounds like they are FXO ports from your description in the first post. because you stated you connected them to an ATA which are typically an FXS device.

            Does the software only work via these FXO cards?

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            • anthonyhA
              anthonyh @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

              Ah check this out... XO was talking about this working but just missing from the XO interface some time ago: https://xen-orchestra.com/forum/topic/25/pci-passthrough-add-ability-to-do-this-from-the-web-interface

              Oooh. If this is doable under vanilla XenServer 6.5, then I may be in business. I'm more than comfortable with the CLI. I'll just need to make sure we have a box that has the required hardware features to support it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @anthonyh
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                @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                @scottalanmiller said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                Ah check this out... XO was talking about this working but just missing from the XO interface some time ago: https://xen-orchestra.com/forum/topic/25/pci-passthrough-add-ability-to-do-this-from-the-web-interface

                Oooh. If this is doable under vanilla XenServer 6.5, then I may be in business. I'm more than comfortable with the CLI. I'll just need to make sure we have a box that has the required hardware features to support it.

                Seems likely. Just sadly not something I've tested or needed to do.

                Okay, maybe sadly means thankfully there.

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                • anthonyhA
                  anthonyh @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                  @anthonyh First, you need to ignore anyone telling you to switch your PBX. There is nothing wrong with PBX in a Flash. In fact it is a better solution than FreePBX from the point of view that PBX in a Flash uses 100% standard repos. FreePBX uses custom repos.

                  Functionally they are identical.

                  On to your problem. Let me ask you this question.

                  The custom IVR thing uses the PCI card for what exactly? It sounds like they are FXO ports from your description in the first post. because you stated you connected them to an ATA which are typically an FXS device.

                  Does the software only work via these FXO cards?

                  They are multi-port FXO cards, yes (I couldn't remember the term!). I do not know exactly how the software interfaces with them. I'm not sure if they are proprietary hardware paired with their software, or if they are off-the-shelf cards that were simply recommended by the software vendor. This system was set up before my time, and has been solid enough that in the 2+ years I've been here I have not even needed to log into the box (though I have logged in so that 1) I knew I could get in if I needed to, and 2) to check it out so I at least kinda-knew what I was working with, lol).

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @anthonyh
                    last edited by JaredBusch

                    @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                    @JaredBusch said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                    @anthonyh First, you need to ignore anyone telling you to switch your PBX. There is nothing wrong with PBX in a Flash. In fact it is a better solution than FreePBX from the point of view that PBX in a Flash uses 100% standard repos. FreePBX uses custom repos.

                    Functionally they are identical.

                    On to your problem. Let me ask you this question.

                    The custom IVR thing uses the PCI card for what exactly? It sounds like they are FXO ports from your description in the first post. because you stated you connected them to an ATA which are typically an FXS device.

                    Does the software only work via these FXO cards?

                    They are multi-port FXO cards, yes (I couldn't remember the term!). I do not know exactly how the software interfaces with them. I'm not sure if they are proprietary hardware paired with their software, or if they are off-the-shelf cards that were simply recommended by the software vendor. This system was set up before my time, and has been solid enough that in the 2+ years I've been here I have not even needed to log into the box (though I have logged in so that 1) I knew I could get in if I needed to, and 2) to check it out so I at least kinda-knew what I was working with, lol).

                    Well even if you get your PCI pass through on XS, you will not have HA because the card is tied to the compute node it is installed in.

                    I would definitely spend time investigating the software options the vendor has. If there is an option to remove the FXO cards from the picture, you will gain everything you want.

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                    • anthonyhA
                      anthonyh @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                      @anthonyh said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                      @JaredBusch said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                      @anthonyh First, you need to ignore anyone telling you to switch your PBX. There is nothing wrong with PBX in a Flash. In fact it is a better solution than FreePBX from the point of view that PBX in a Flash uses 100% standard repos. FreePBX uses custom repos.

                      Functionally they are identical.

                      On to your problem. Let me ask you this question.

                      The custom IVR thing uses the PCI card for what exactly? It sounds like they are FXO ports from your description in the first post. because you stated you connected them to an ATA which are typically an FXS device.

                      Does the software only work via these FXO cards?

                      They are multi-port FXO cards, yes (I couldn't remember the term!). I do not know exactly how the software interfaces with them. I'm not sure if they are proprietary hardware paired with their software, or if they are off-the-shelf cards that were simply recommended by the software vendor. This system was set up before my time, and has been solid enough that in the 2+ years I've been here I have not even needed to log into the box (though I have logged in so that 1) I knew I could get in if I needed to, and 2) to check it out so I at least kinda-knew what I was working with, lol).

                      Well even if you get your PCI pass through on XS, you will not have HA because the card is tied to the compute node it is installed in.

                      I would definitely spend time investigating the software options the vendor has. If there is an option to remove the FXO cards from the picture, you will gain everything you want.

                      We are going to check with the vendor for sure.

                      Another thought I had was possible FXO emulation. I wonder if there is a such animal? We could then emulate the FXO interfaces on the server in question and have said emulator simply connect to our PBX via SIP and it all be software and then be nice and portable.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        Is your PIAF a VM on your XS platform? is it HA?

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                        • anthonyhA
                          anthonyh @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in PCI over Ethernet?:

                          Is your PIAF a VM on your XS platform? is it HA?

                          It's a VM in our HA pool.

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                            Alex Sage @anthonyh
                            last edited by Alex Sage

                            @anthonyh Just use Veeam Endpoint with the server on 😉

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