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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford
      last edited by

      I've been looking at some different NAS devices. Synology, QNAP, etc. Also looked at LaCie & G-RAID because they have Thunderbolt and this will connect to a Mac Mini. Anyone tried out any devices they particularly like? I won't hold my breath for anyone connecting it via Thunderbolt, but if you have...

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      • coliverC
        coliver
        last edited by

        #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said in SMB NAS:

          #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

          I haven't used QNAP in a while, but I still see them get great ratings. I just stopped using them because they had worse performance on paper and cost more than, say, Synology.

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in SMB NAS:

            #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

            Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @bbigford
              last edited by

              @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

              @coliver said in SMB NAS:

              #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

              Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

              Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                When the QNAP array did work it was slow. Seriously slow, we had some quick drive in a RAID 10 array and it was struggling handling even a light load.

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                  @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                  @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                  #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

                  Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

                  Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

                  Yeah I've used a couple maybe 4-5 years ago. I think one was a x2 disk unit and the other was x4. They had a pretty good price but since then I've just switched to Synology because of price. The software interface is strictly preference but I prefer Synology, it's just a little cleaner and more intuitive for me. Another one I switched people to was Buffalo but those were just to save cost and not concerned with great performance.

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                    When the QNAP array did work it was slow. Seriously slow, we had some quick drive in a RAID 10 array and it was struggling handling even a light load.

                    Anymore, if they were extremely reliable, they would have to drop their prices about 10-15% before we would even consider them.

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                    • bbigfordB
                      bbigford @coliver
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                      @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                      When the QNAP array did work it was slow. Seriously slow, we had some quick drive in a RAID 10 array and it was struggling handling even a light load.

                      It seems like every model I look at, compared to Synology, has a less powerful CPU (maybe half the cores and half the frequency as well), half the RAM, for about 5-10% more in price. Doesn't make sense to buy them in the last couple years, IMO.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                        @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                        @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                        #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

                        Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

                        Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

                        I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                          @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                          @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                          @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                          #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

                          Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

                          Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

                          I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.

                          Yeah I can imagine that sucks. I've saw people have the worst luck with the best manufacturer in its category, and people that have the best luck with the worst manufacturer. Could just have a run of bad luck, maybe the products all suck that entire year due to something internal to the company like cutting corners for more profit, etc. Hard to say what you're gonna get.

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                          • bbigfordB
                            bbigford @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                            @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                            @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                            @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                            #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

                            Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

                            Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

                            I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.

                            Like with workstations, I will only buy Dell for work because they are way easier to support, but I find it difficult to justify buying one for home. I have just witnessed way too many oddities. You could argue that someone could buy a Precision, or an XPS and be fine. But for those prices and no need for the additional business hardware like docking, etc, I could spend that on something like an Asus or MSI laptop with arguably better hardware for the same price.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @bbigford
                              last edited by

                              @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                              @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                              @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                              @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                              @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                              #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

                              Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

                              Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

                              I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.

                              Yeah I can imagine that sucks. I've saw people have the worst luck with the best manufacturer in its category, and people that have the best luck with the worst manufacturer. Could just have a run of bad luck, maybe the products all suck that entire year due to something internal to the company like cutting corners for more profit, etc. Hard to say what you're gonna get.

                              Maybe, but we weren't the only ones having issues with similar models at that time. Many people were mentioning the same thing. Could be a bad year sure...

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                              • bbigfordB
                                bbigford @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                                @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                                @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                                @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                                @BBigford said in SMB NAS:

                                @coliver said in SMB NAS:

                                #NeverQNAP. Can this be a thing? I'm making it a thing.

                                Did they take a nose dive and are no longer a good NAS manufacturer?

                                Were they ever a good NAS manufacturer? We had nothing but problems with them as a backup array. It would throw drive errors every week and support wanted us to update to the newest "support" firmware every time. It would just brick the box and we had to start from factory.

                                I should mention that this wasn't a single device. It was three different devices, each replacing the one previously from support. We finally gave up and just left it sitting there.

                                Yeah I can imagine that sucks. I've saw people have the worst luck with the best manufacturer in its category, and people that have the best luck with the worst manufacturer. Could just have a run of bad luck, maybe the products all suck that entire year due to something internal to the company like cutting corners for more profit, etc. Hard to say what you're gonna get.

                                Maybe, but we weren't the only ones having issues with similar models at that time. Many people were mentioning the same thing. Could be a bad year sure...

                                Good to know though, I don't have any reason to actually buy a QNAP anymore, so I'll just steer clear and stick with what I feel comfortable with. Still haven't used anything with Thunderbolt like LaCie & G-Technology but that kind of throughput as a direct attached storage would be nice. I've always found those manufacturers to be like Apple... underpowered and overpriced.

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                                • B
                                  Brett at ioSafe Vendor
                                  last edited by Brett at ioSafe

                                  You may like to check out our fire- and waterproof Synology-based NAS too. Depending on your needs, they could either be a good fit or overkill. Link

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                                    Alex Sage
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                                    Synology is my favorite.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
                                      last edited by wirestyle22

                                      Is there a reason you have to buy a commercial NAS? Why not make your own? The only thing I can think of is power consumption.

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco
                                        last edited by

                                        Definitely don't go with any WD NAS. We have a Sentinel DX4000 here, and it is SSSLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWW.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @RojoLoco
                                          last edited by

                                          @RojoLoco said in SMB NAS:

                                          Definitely don't go with any WD NAS. We have a Sentinel DX4000 here, and it is SSSLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWW.

                                          Yeah I told our rep we won't be going with a WD NAS. I love their drives, but their enclosures are not very good.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            The sister company at the last place I worked swore by MyBook Worlds... sure it took all day to backup a few hundred gigs of data. But they lasted forever and were inexpensive. The tech wanted us to do the same thing but we had 3x the amount of data.

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