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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @bbigford
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      @BBigford said

      "Need to restore 4 times? You get 4 drives! ...Which you can use as a direct attach for Time Machine for your 4 computers... Good day!"

      4 times? That is what they call in soccer ... unlucky.

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      • bbigfordB
        bbigford
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        Part of the issue I might run into when backing up data for Mac users is, "would you rather have BackBlaze which does file level backup, or Time Machine which takes a whole snapshot?" That would be followed with, "I just want my computer to be exactly the way it was, an hour ago."

        I can just see it now. Not from the CEO, but from other higher ups. The CEO is actually the easiest one to deal with.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Ifthe goal is to "roll the system back", that's Time Machine. If the goal is to keep from experiencing data loss, the BackBlaze is the choice.

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in OSX Backups:

            Ifthe goal is to "roll the system back", that's Time Machine. If the goal is to keep from experiencing data loss, the BackBlaze is the choice.

            That's what I was thinking. I'm guessing all online services would be similar to BackBlaze in the end goal, which is overall data loss, rather than rolling back.

            I'll just bring this by the boss and see what he prefers. After I do some research on breaking out user backups to separate areas of Time Machine. I'm guessing it has to be somewhat granular.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @bbigford
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              @BBigford said in OSX Backups:

              @scottalanmiller said in OSX Backups:

              Ifthe goal is to "roll the system back", that's Time Machine. If the goal is to keep from experiencing data loss, the BackBlaze is the choice.

              That's what I was thinking. I'm guessing all online services would be similar to BackBlaze in the end goal, which is overall data loss, rather than rolling back.

              I'll just bring this by the boss and see what he prefers. After I do some research on breaking out user backups to separate areas of Time Machine. I'm guessing it has to be somewhat granular.

              Yes, partially because roll back snapshots are not network efficient, a major factor for online services.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Veeam Backup and Restore might be available for Mac as well. Free and powerful.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in OSX Backups:

                  Veeam Backup and Restore might be available for Mac as well. Free and powerful.

                  "Veeam Endpoint Backup is intended for x86 Windows-based desktops, laptops and tablets only."

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller

                    If that is the product you meant.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee
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                      I use Carbon Copy Cloner

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                      • F
                        Francesco Provino
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                        No needs to buy anything: you just spin a Linux VM with enough storage your server, and build a time machine server compatible service using Netatalk and Avahi. I've used this from years till today, it's perfectly realiable and very simple; it's enterprise-ready also, you can made this VM as big as you want, backup to tape or replicate as any other VM, and of course host it on enterprise-class hardware etc.

                        I've read somewhere that Apple's TM is just a linux or bsd machine with a tuned version of netatalk/avahi.
                        I've build my own "Time Capsule" in a CentOS VM hosted in a KVM environment, no issue at all from 2013. Just search "linux time machine netatalk" and you will find a bunch of tutorials.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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                          @Francesco-Provino said in OSX Backups:

                          I've read somewhere that Apple's TM is just a linux or bsd machine with a tuned version of netatalk/avahi.

                          Don't know about Avahi, but Apple's TM is definitely running on OSX, which is derived from FreeBSD (long ago.)

                          Are they still using Netatalk in TM? Apple officially moved to SMB as their standard for everything else a couple of OS releases ago.

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                            marcinozga
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                            Would Time Capsule work? http://www.apple.com/airport-time-capsule/
                            I use an older model at home and it just works without any effort. And you can backup multiple macs to one. And it's less than half the price of Mac Mini.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre
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                              I'm another huge fan of Crashplan. I love their product and it has saved my hide a few times as well as some friends of mine.

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                              • Minion QueenM
                                Minion Queen
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                                We have lots of clients with Macs as well as GroveSocial runs on Mac's. I use Unitrends (gotta love having like 3 Unitrends appliances in my office).

                                For one client we do Time Capsule and Crash-Plan. Another is Backblaze. All options are great. All options easy.

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                                • bbigfordB
                                  bbigford @marcinozga
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                                  @marcinozga said in OSX Backups:

                                  Would Time Capsule work? http://www.apple.com/airport-time-capsule/
                                  I use an older model at home and it just works without any effort. And you can backup multiple macs to one. And it's less than half the price of Mac Mini.

                                  I've been considering that. My thought was, that Time Capsule wouldn't allow for multiple Macs to be broken out so that users can only see their own restores. Also that OSX Server on a Mac Mini might be able to break out those restores completely isolated. I have used neither though so I haven't found anything concrete. Most people using Time Capsule are home users or SOHO, and anyone in enterprise I've found to be using something that doesn't involve a complete roll back in time.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre
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                                    With time Machine, you can do file-level restores, you don't have to restore the whole system back to the snapshot that you need a few files from.

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said in OSX Backups:

                                      With time Machine, you can do file-level restores, you don't have to restore the whole system back to the snapshot that you need a few files from.

                                      The whole system roll back is something that would interest them.

                                      So I know CP and BB do file level, out to the cloud. Has anyone used TC or OSX Server to break out different machine backups? Were they isolated?

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                                        marcinozga
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                                        Would encryption work in your case? Each individual mac get's its backups encrypted.

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